He's doing the right thing. Who knows if UCLA will be on the field again this school year. While the SEC, Big 12 and ACC are playing football, enjoying life and normalcy while getting more revenue and attention for their programs, UCLA athletes will have decisions to make: hideout in my cover bomb shelter or continue my career doing the things I love while I have the time and opportunity. I never thought I would live to see the day when I agreed with Lane Kiffin, students should be allowed to transfer out of conferences if their conferences aren't going to play.
Sadly, I agree. By taking the agency out of the hands of the student athlete, the PAC-12 has forced the hands of student athletes that would have elected to play, to transfer. The PAC is already the worst power-5 conference by far, this will just help us get ever closer to mid-major level.
Sadly I agree too. Really sick what the Pac 12 has done to it's student athletes. I hate to say it, but I hope a lot of guys follow Burton and pursue their dreams elsewhere. Here's to hoping the Pac 12 continues to be exposed for the boneheads they are.
The Pac 12 has completely mismanaged the conference and UCLA has been one of the biggest examples of incompetency. There might be some concerns regarding Covid, but truth is all the same people they are keeping off the field will be attending crowded stores, restaurants and businesses with people they don't know as opposed to being with their teams, trainers and doctors that they do know. They have a higher percentage of getting hurt on the field than they do of catching or having complications from Covid. They keep saying that they are "looking at the science". Well look at the science and stop making decisions based on the .4 percent.
yeah...truth be told kids are safest with their football teams than back home. Also nobody has answered this question: so what if a college student gets covid?
I know UCLA fans love to make everything bad that happens an indictment or Chip or Larry Scott, and quite often they are correct to do so, but this feels like a pretty explainable incident, as you allude to. It's a bummer, but blame can't really be attributed anywhere but the virus. It happens.
I believe they did not have a scholarship before this, but I wonder if him leaving gives UCLA a shot at Grant Calcaterra. It'd make sense for him to be targeting a Pac-12 school, as he's been out of football for a while and would need time to ramp back up anyway.
Blame can be attributable to something besides the virus - college football is happening in the fall in the majority of the major conferences. The virus is a nice universal excuse to point at when sucking at everything, though.
I almost want to see a Spring season just so the Pac-12 looks dumber than it already does. Burton won't be the first to leave, and nobody gearing up for the draft is going to be trying to play spring football. There will also be high school players graduating early doing the early enrollment thing, but some of those kids are going to get playing time when they should be getting their feet wet in spring practice. It's truly going to be JV football, lower quality than mid major. Can you imagine how bad the bottom of the conference is going to look?
that's just the problem. The science is not clear. For ever doctor that says the student athletes are at risk of covid, there's one who disagrees. And nobody has really answered this question: so what if a player gets covid?
Your first statement just isn't true. Every epidemiologist that I've seen has been extremely pro-shutdown. And your question has been answered hundreds of times by various different leagues/schools: if an athlete gets covid, they shut it down. When schools have positives tests, practices get cancelled. When MLB teams have positive tests, games get cancelled. If people don't take it seriously the positive tests are going to continue and you can't just schedule doubleheaders like in the MLB so if college football cancellations rack up they'll just scrap the season. Unless you mean what happens to the actual person getting in, in which case yes most will recover but some will incur potentially long-term health issues like the myocarditis found in those Big Ten athletes that caused the postponement of the season, and most will likely spread it to others, putting exponentially more people at risk. If you are aware of those two risks and still are critical of a conference postponing a season for your own entertainment then you are being willfully ignorant and I can't help you with that one.
you just don't read then. The nature of science is that people disagree. That's just the way it is. There are doctors, epidemiologists, other scientists on tv literally ever single day with diverse views about this virus. You'll probably say fox doesn't count. uh, ok.
And you missed the point about my question. I'm not asking what will happen to the league. I am asking what will happen to the person. If a 20 yr old kid gets covid....so what?
To that 20 year old kid, you are right, probably nothing. But it's the potential maelstrom of occurrences that can come from that one case that present the bigger problem.
That ratio is wrong. It's far from an even division. One of the major problems with information in our age is that you can always find a contradictory opinion out there somewhere and give it an audience and make it seems like there is an actual controversy. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals and epidemiologists are on the side of health safety, in part because the risk of one player getting covid, which will frequently present little risk to that one player, carries much larger risks beyond that.
He's doing the right thing. Who knows if UCLA will be on the field again this school year. While the SEC, Big 12 and ACC are playing football, enjoying life and normalcy while getting more revenue and attention for their programs, UCLA athletes will have decisions to make: hideout in my cover bomb shelter or continue my career doing the things I love while I have the time and opportunity. I never thought I would live to see the day when I agreed with Lane Kiffin, students should be allowed to transfer out of conferences if their conferences aren't going to play.
Sadly, I agree. By taking the agency out of the hands of the student athlete, the PAC-12 has forced the hands of student athletes that would have elected to play, to transfer. The PAC is already the worst power-5 conference by far, this will just help us get ever closer to mid-major level.
Sadly I agree too. Really sick what the Pac 12 has done to it's student athletes. I hate to say it, but I hope a lot of guys follow Burton and pursue their dreams elsewhere. Here's to hoping the Pac 12 continues to be exposed for the boneheads they are.
The Pac 12 has completely mismanaged the conference and UCLA has been one of the biggest examples of incompetency. There might be some concerns regarding Covid, but truth is all the same people they are keeping off the field will be attending crowded stores, restaurants and businesses with people they don't know as opposed to being with their teams, trainers and doctors that they do know. They have a higher percentage of getting hurt on the field than they do of catching or having complications from Covid. They keep saying that they are "looking at the science". Well look at the science and stop making decisions based on the .4 percent.
yeah...truth be told kids are safest with their football teams than back home. Also nobody has answered this question: so what if a college student gets covid?
I know UCLA fans love to make everything bad that happens an indictment or Chip or Larry Scott, and quite often they are correct to do so, but this feels like a pretty explainable incident, as you allude to. It's a bummer, but blame can't really be attributed anywhere but the virus. It happens.
I believe they did not have a scholarship before this, but I wonder if him leaving gives UCLA a shot at Grant Calcaterra. It'd make sense for him to be targeting a Pac-12 school, as he's been out of football for a while and would need time to ramp back up anyway.
Blame can be attributable to something besides the virus - college football is happening in the fall in the majority of the major conferences. The virus is a nice universal excuse to point at when sucking at everything, though.
I almost want to see a Spring season just so the Pac-12 looks dumber than it already does. Burton won't be the first to leave, and nobody gearing up for the draft is going to be trying to play spring football. There will also be high school players graduating early doing the early enrollment thing, but some of those kids are going to get playing time when they should be getting their feet wet in spring practice. It's truly going to be JV football, lower quality than mid major. Can you imagine how bad the bottom of the conference is going to look?
Yes, believing science and valuing the players' health is dumb. Good take
that's just the problem. The science is not clear. For ever doctor that says the student athletes are at risk of covid, there's one who disagrees. And nobody has really answered this question: so what if a player gets covid?
Your first statement just isn't true. Every epidemiologist that I've seen has been extremely pro-shutdown. And your question has been answered hundreds of times by various different leagues/schools: if an athlete gets covid, they shut it down. When schools have positives tests, practices get cancelled. When MLB teams have positive tests, games get cancelled. If people don't take it seriously the positive tests are going to continue and you can't just schedule doubleheaders like in the MLB so if college football cancellations rack up they'll just scrap the season. Unless you mean what happens to the actual person getting in, in which case yes most will recover but some will incur potentially long-term health issues like the myocarditis found in those Big Ten athletes that caused the postponement of the season, and most will likely spread it to others, putting exponentially more people at risk. If you are aware of those two risks and still are critical of a conference postponing a season for your own entertainment then you are being willfully ignorant and I can't help you with that one.
you just don't read then. The nature of science is that people disagree. That's just the way it is. There are doctors, epidemiologists, other scientists on tv literally ever single day with diverse views about this virus. You'll probably say fox doesn't count. uh, ok.
And you missed the point about my question. I'm not asking what will happen to the league. I am asking what will happen to the person. If a 20 yr old kid gets covid....so what?
To that 20 year old kid, you are right, probably nothing. But it's the potential maelstrom of occurrences that can come from that one case that present the bigger problem.
That ratio is wrong. It's far from an even division. One of the major problems with information in our age is that you can always find a contradictory opinion out there somewhere and give it an audience and make it seems like there is an actual controversy. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals and epidemiologists are on the side of health safety, in part because the risk of one player getting covid, which will frequently present little risk to that one player, carries much larger risks beyond that.
That's not completely true. I loved to make everything bad that happens an indictment of Dan. I'm really kind of lost right anymore. ;-)
He's found a home at Baylor. Congrats!
Anyone who is kind of a borderline NFL draft pick and wants to up his stock should transfer out of the PAC-12 or Big-10, for their future.