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ASDK's avatar

I know UCLA fans love to make everything bad that happens an indictment or Chip or Larry Scott, and quite often they are correct to do so, but this feels like a pretty explainable incident, as you allude to. It's a bummer, but blame can't really be attributed anywhere but the virus. It happens.

I believe they did not have a scholarship before this, but I wonder if him leaving gives UCLA a shot at Grant Calcaterra. It'd make sense for him to be targeting a Pac-12 school, as he's been out of football for a while and would need time to ramp back up anyway.

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bruinbunz's avatar

Blame can be attributable to something besides the virus - college football is happening in the fall in the majority of the major conferences. The virus is a nice universal excuse to point at when sucking at everything, though.

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Evan's avatar

I almost want to see a Spring season just so the Pac-12 looks dumber than it already does. Burton won't be the first to leave, and nobody gearing up for the draft is going to be trying to play spring football. There will also be high school players graduating early doing the early enrollment thing, but some of those kids are going to get playing time when they should be getting their feet wet in spring practice. It's truly going to be JV football, lower quality than mid major. Can you imagine how bad the bottom of the conference is going to look?

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ASDK's avatar

Yes, believing science and valuing the players' health is dumb. Good take

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Evan's avatar

that's just the problem. The science is not clear. For ever doctor that says the student athletes are at risk of covid, there's one who disagrees. And nobody has really answered this question: so what if a player gets covid?

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ASDK's avatar

Your first statement just isn't true. Every epidemiologist that I've seen has been extremely pro-shutdown. And your question has been answered hundreds of times by various different leagues/schools: if an athlete gets covid, they shut it down. When schools have positives tests, practices get cancelled. When MLB teams have positive tests, games get cancelled. If people don't take it seriously the positive tests are going to continue and you can't just schedule doubleheaders like in the MLB so if college football cancellations rack up they'll just scrap the season. Unless you mean what happens to the actual person getting in, in which case yes most will recover but some will incur potentially long-term health issues like the myocarditis found in those Big Ten athletes that caused the postponement of the season, and most will likely spread it to others, putting exponentially more people at risk. If you are aware of those two risks and still are critical of a conference postponing a season for your own entertainment then you are being willfully ignorant and I can't help you with that one.

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Evan's avatar

you just don't read then. The nature of science is that people disagree. That's just the way it is. There are doctors, epidemiologists, other scientists on tv literally ever single day with diverse views about this virus. You'll probably say fox doesn't count. uh, ok.

And you missed the point about my question. I'm not asking what will happen to the league. I am asking what will happen to the person. If a 20 yr old kid gets covid....so what?

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gbruin's avatar

To that 20 year old kid, you are right, probably nothing. But it's the potential maelstrom of occurrences that can come from that one case that present the bigger problem.

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gbruin's avatar

That ratio is wrong. It's far from an even division. One of the major problems with information in our age is that you can always find a contradictory opinion out there somewhere and give it an audience and make it seems like there is an actual controversy. The overwhelming majority of medical professionals and epidemiologists are on the side of health safety, in part because the risk of one player getting covid, which will frequently present little risk to that one player, carries much larger risks beyond that.

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gbruin's avatar

That's not completely true. I loved to make everything bad that happens an indictment of Dan. I'm really kind of lost right anymore. ;-)

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