I have a bad feeling that if we beat Cal, Chip will remain and Lynn will leave. Jarmond may weaken and forget about all the horrible losses and overall bad record that Chip has racked up.
Well Jarmond gave Chip an extension even though Chip's record was terrible and remains terrible. If Chip was at a top tier Football program like Ohio State or Georgia or Michigan, he would have been gone after the initial 3 bad years. I just don't know if Jarmond will do the right thing. I hope he does.
I did not watch the game AT ALL. I only heard of the final score on my way out of the Aquatics Club. Somebody said UCLA won and my heart skipped a fraction of a beat. LOL !!!!!!!!! I guess my overall cardio pulmonary system can tolerate it. Had it been a full beat or two, then the Aquatics club people may have to use the defibrillator on me. Boy oh boy, it is tough to be a UCLA alum and fan these days.
You deadpanned it. It appears Kelly knows exactly what he is doing, precisely when he can push the button and when he should not. What a shame UCLA lends itself to be led in the nose by this con artist of a coach.
I understand your point. If Chip is truly manipulating Jarmond, that would be a new low. I guess we will have to wait and see what Jarmond is made of...
I will say it is odd how UCLA played so well today yet played so badly for much of the season. The lack of developing Moore through an offense that complimented his talents. The lack of recruiting which resulted in many problems such as our kicking game and o-line. The bad losses. The overall bad record. The fact that Chip has never shown a true love for or connection with UCLA and supporters.
So many negatives. It's hard for me to fathom not firing Chip but Jarmond may not have the courage to do so. I just don't know.
But I will say that there is no way I couldn't feel complete joy in beating suc. Too much bad blood with suc and the blue and gold is in my DNA.
I wouldn't say UCLA had the greatest of games today. UCLA won this game by the defenses of both teams. SUC's defense... well sucked. Probably the worse defense I've seen in college and they have been consistently bad all season. UCLA's defense was fantastic throughout the entire game and frankly, they won this game for the Bruins today. As for the Chipster (OG), I'm still confident he will be gone once we hit that December contract deliverable. If not, more tarps at the Rose Bowl, more football loses, more excuses, more snarky answers and behaviors from the head coach, more donuts missing from the meeting rooms and more red ink for the football program and the Athletic Dept as a whole. The Big 10 money will only go so far without any revenue from the football program.
Yes, Chip is certainly the HC donut equivalent of AD Dan ЁЯдг
If Chip is shown the EXIT, what do you think of Lynn as the HC choice for the Bruins. He is such an outstanding D coach and he could certainly hire a great OC. He turned our D around in 1 year, which is amazing.
Yes, he is young, "hungry" and wants to prove himself and he is defensive minded, and I still believe defense wins championships. But with all that, he would still need a very good and effective Offensive coordinator. Not sure who that would be. Perhaps another position coach from the NFL?
Agree ЁЯТп that defense wins championships. I do believe there has to be some great OCs who would jump at the chance to work for Lynn. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Well, there may still be that chance if UCLA loses to Cal! But even then, I think Jarmond would let the Chipster (OG) finish out the season with what would likely be a bowl loss! And there is one important point that people sometimes miss here. UCLA's defensive players are extremely talented, Lynn has had six really talented seniors to work with and the Juniors have been great as well. So, we can all sing the praises of Lynn and how he has turned the really bad defense in 2022 around to a very good defense in 2023 (which he has), but we also need to give credit to the players as well, some of which won't be here next year. I mean Latu, monster game today and has played consistently well all season, but he will be gone after this year.
Regarding " the blue and gold is in my DNA ", it is in mine too although I received my doctorate from Wisconsin. Born and raised there, I came out to UCLA for my undergraduate studies. Many of my cohorts were surprised because back then, most midwestern kids perceived California merely as land of the Beach Boys, Hollywood movies, the hippies' counter culture movements and anti - war protesters Nothing academic at all. I did it because UCLA hoops totally transfixed me. I got to go there and my parents never objected. But when I graduated and decided to go on to grad school, Wisconsin offered me scholarship in the form of teaching assistantship ahead of UCLA. They gave it to me well after I accepted Wisconsin's. So this is the story of my double alma mater.
You're right. Chip never acts nor speaks with any pride of being UCLA coach. So what's the hesitation to cut ties with him ?!?
1.) UCLA doesn't much care for the football program, they never really have, 2.) Keeping The Chipster (OG) is simply the lazy answer to the football issue (just keep him, if he wins 6 or 7 games, that's good enough, beats SUC once in a while, good enough), 3.) Follow the money, UCLA Athletics is still in a financial mess, thanks to mismanagement of Donut Dan and continued mismanagement by Jarmond, so they cannot afford these huge multi-million-dollar payouts. We may think they are small "chump change" payouts, but the UCLA Administration doesn't. 4.) The Chipster (OG) has convinced the UCLA brass and some of the big UCLA Alum and donors that he is still the Chipster (OG) that coached at Oregon, even though that Chipster (OG) is long gone.
All of these guys are getting paid way too much to accept such a mess that has been our football team and football culture for a long time. Yet, here we are. Jarmond will destroy his own potential legacy if he doesn't act now and fire Chip.
Hmm ... It depends on whether Jarmond has enough guts to pull the trigger. I know this win may lead him to dither, reconsider the issue all over again the way Guererro infamously did.
It reminds me again how much I like Saturday afternoon games. Does this mean Kelly won't be fired?
I have a bad feeling that if we beat Cal, Chip will remain and Lynn will leave. Jarmond may weaken and forget about all the horrible losses and overall bad record that Chip has racked up.
How can you keep a guy who shows up 2-3 games a year?
Great win, Bruins!
Well Jarmond gave Chip an extension even though Chip's record was terrible and remains terrible. If Chip was at a top tier Football program like Ohio State or Georgia or Michigan, he would have been gone after the initial 3 bad years. I just don't know if Jarmond will do the right thing. I hope he does.
I did not watch the game AT ALL. I only heard of the final score on my way out of the Aquatics Club. Somebody said UCLA won and my heart skipped a fraction of a beat. LOL !!!!!!!!! I guess my overall cardio pulmonary system can tolerate it. Had it been a full beat or two, then the Aquatics club people may have to use the defibrillator on me. Boy oh boy, it is tough to be a UCLA alum and fan these days.
I'm glad you're still with us, Henry. It was an exciting and satisfying game.
You deadpanned it. It appears Kelly knows exactly what he is doing, precisely when he can push the button and when he should not. What a shame UCLA lends itself to be led in the nose by this con artist of a coach.
I understand your point. If Chip is truly manipulating Jarmond, that would be a new low. I guess we will have to wait and see what Jarmond is made of...
I will say it is odd how UCLA played so well today yet played so badly for much of the season. The lack of developing Moore through an offense that complimented his talents. The lack of recruiting which resulted in many problems such as our kicking game and o-line. The bad losses. The overall bad record. The fact that Chip has never shown a true love for or connection with UCLA and supporters.
So many negatives. It's hard for me to fathom not firing Chip but Jarmond may not have the courage to do so. I just don't know.
But I will say that there is no way I couldn't feel complete joy in beating suc. Too much bad blood with suc and the blue and gold is in my DNA.
I wouldn't say UCLA had the greatest of games today. UCLA won this game by the defenses of both teams. SUC's defense... well sucked. Probably the worse defense I've seen in college and they have been consistently bad all season. UCLA's defense was fantastic throughout the entire game and frankly, they won this game for the Bruins today. As for the Chipster (OG), I'm still confident he will be gone once we hit that December contract deliverable. If not, more tarps at the Rose Bowl, more football loses, more excuses, more snarky answers and behaviors from the head coach, more donuts missing from the meeting rooms and more red ink for the football program and the Athletic Dept as a whole. The Big 10 money will only go so far without any revenue from the football program.
Yes, Chip is certainly the HC donut equivalent of AD Dan ЁЯдг
If Chip is shown the EXIT, what do you think of Lynn as the HC choice for the Bruins. He is such an outstanding D coach and he could certainly hire a great OC. He turned our D around in 1 year, which is amazing.
Yes, he is young, "hungry" and wants to prove himself and he is defensive minded, and I still believe defense wins championships. But with all that, he would still need a very good and effective Offensive coordinator. Not sure who that would be. Perhaps another position coach from the NFL?
Agree ЁЯТп that defense wins championships. I do believe there has to be some great OCs who would jump at the chance to work for Lynn. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
I like it! Frankly I am happy with the win otoh I really wanted him to be named the interim HC for the final gameтАж
Yes, that would have been great!
Well, there may still be that chance if UCLA loses to Cal! But even then, I think Jarmond would let the Chipster (OG) finish out the season with what would likely be a bowl loss! And there is one important point that people sometimes miss here. UCLA's defensive players are extremely talented, Lynn has had six really talented seniors to work with and the Juniors have been great as well. So, we can all sing the praises of Lynn and how he has turned the really bad defense in 2022 around to a very good defense in 2023 (which he has), but we also need to give credit to the players as well, some of which won't be here next year. I mean Latu, monster game today and has played consistently well all season, but he will be gone after this year.
Latu was a beast and Loya had a Bruin career defining day!
Regarding " the blue and gold is in my DNA ", it is in mine too although I received my doctorate from Wisconsin. Born and raised there, I came out to UCLA for my undergraduate studies. Many of my cohorts were surprised because back then, most midwestern kids perceived California merely as land of the Beach Boys, Hollywood movies, the hippies' counter culture movements and anti - war protesters Nothing academic at all. I did it because UCLA hoops totally transfixed me. I got to go there and my parents never objected. But when I graduated and decided to go on to grad school, Wisconsin offered me scholarship in the form of teaching assistantship ahead of UCLA. They gave it to me well after I accepted Wisconsin's. So this is the story of my double alma mater.
You're right. Chip never acts nor speaks with any pride of being UCLA coach. So what's the hesitation to cut ties with him ?!?
I just don't understand the hesitation in cutting ties with Chip - it is truly mind boggling to say the least.
1.) UCLA doesn't much care for the football program, they never really have, 2.) Keeping The Chipster (OG) is simply the lazy answer to the football issue (just keep him, if he wins 6 or 7 games, that's good enough, beats SUC once in a while, good enough), 3.) Follow the money, UCLA Athletics is still in a financial mess, thanks to mismanagement of Donut Dan and continued mismanagement by Jarmond, so they cannot afford these huge multi-million-dollar payouts. We may think they are small "chump change" payouts, but the UCLA Administration doesn't. 4.) The Chipster (OG) has convinced the UCLA brass and some of the big UCLA Alum and donors that he is still the Chipster (OG) that coached at Oregon, even though that Chipster (OG) is long gone.
All of these guys are getting paid way too much to accept such a mess that has been our football team and football culture for a long time. Yet, here we are. Jarmond will destroy his own potential legacy if he doesn't act now and fire Chip.
Hmm ... It depends on whether Jarmond has enough guts to pull the trigger. I know this win may lead him to dither, reconsider the issue all over again the way Guererro infamously did.
Probably Not
The announcers were touting him yesterday, give me a break
yeah...
no chance.