Are they likely UCLA bound ? The NCAA football signing date is in February or so, if I am not mistaken. Should Kelly remain coach, please for heaven's sake go somewhere.
Martin is All-Conference Academic, he's KILLING it in the classroom.... I expect him to earn his degree, then enter the transfer portal. HOPEFULLY, he'll hook up with another IHS alum - Reggie Theus, AD at Bethune-Cookman - and get all the snaps he could ever want, while REALLY injecting a strong punch into BC's recruiting....
I have a bad feeling that if we beat Cal, Chip will remain and Lynn will leave. Jarmond may weaken and forget about all the horrible losses and overall bad record that Chip has racked up.
Well Jarmond gave Chip an extension even though Chip's record was terrible and remains terrible. If Chip was at a top tier Football program like Ohio State or Georgia or Michigan, he would have been gone after the initial 3 bad years. I just don't know if Jarmond will do the right thing. I hope he does.
I did not watch the game AT ALL. I only heard of the final score on my way out of the Aquatics Club. Somebody said UCLA won and my heart skipped a fraction of a beat. LOL !!!!!!!!! I guess my overall cardio pulmonary system can tolerate it. Had it been a full beat or two, then the Aquatics club people may have to use the defibrillator on me. Boy oh boy, it is tough to be a UCLA alum and fan these days.
You deadpanned it. It appears Kelly knows exactly what he is doing, precisely when he can push the button and when he should not. What a shame UCLA lends itself to be led in the nose by this con artist of a coach.
I understand your point. If Chip is truly manipulating Jarmond, that would be a new low. I guess we will have to wait and see what Jarmond is made of...
I will say it is odd how UCLA played so well today yet played so badly for much of the season. The lack of developing Moore through an offense that complimented his talents. The lack of recruiting which resulted in many problems such as our kicking game and o-line. The bad losses. The overall bad record. The fact that Chip has never shown a true love for or connection with UCLA and supporters.
So many negatives. It's hard for me to fathom not firing Chip but Jarmond may not have the courage to do so. I just don't know.
But I will say that there is no way I couldn't feel complete joy in beating suc. Too much bad blood with suc and the blue and gold is in my DNA.
I wouldn't say UCLA had the greatest of games today. UCLA won this game by the defenses of both teams. SUC's defense... well sucked. Probably the worse defense I've seen in college and they have been consistently bad all season. UCLA's defense was fantastic throughout the entire game and frankly, they won this game for the Bruins today. As for the Chipster (OG), I'm still confident he will be gone once we hit that December contract deliverable. If not, more tarps at the Rose Bowl, more football loses, more excuses, more snarky answers and behaviors from the head coach, more donuts missing from the meeting rooms and more red ink for the football program and the Athletic Dept as a whole. The Big 10 money will only go so far without any revenue from the football program.
Yes, Chip is certainly the HC donut equivalent of AD Dan 🤣
If Chip is shown the EXIT, what do you think of Lynn as the HC choice for the Bruins. He is such an outstanding D coach and he could certainly hire a great OC. He turned our D around in 1 year, which is amazing.
Regarding " the blue and gold is in my DNA ", it is in mine too although I received my doctorate from Wisconsin. Born and raised there, I came out to UCLA for my undergraduate studies. Many of my cohorts were surprised because back then, most midwestern kids perceived California merely as land of the Beach Boys, Hollywood movies, the hippies' counter culture movements and anti - war protesters Nothing academic at all. I did it because UCLA hoops totally transfixed me. I got to go there and my parents never objected. But when I graduated and decided to go on to grad school, Wisconsin offered me scholarship in the form of teaching assistantship ahead of UCLA. They gave it to me well after I accepted Wisconsin's. So this is the story of my double alma mater.
You're right. Chip never acts nor speaks with any pride of being UCLA coach. So what's the hesitation to cut ties with him ?!?
Hmm ... It depends on whether Jarmond has enough guts to pull the trigger. I know this win may lead him to dither, reconsider the issue all over again the way Guererro infamously did.
Boy, you should never have mixed emotions whenever you beat those red and yellow guys, but does this offset a still-mediocre season and the stench from last week's stinkburger? Hats off to Ethan Garbers and I guess he would have been the difference against ASU? Still, very proud of the players who could have called it in after last week and, in particular the D and its coaching staff, who pushed it in their faces! Go Bruins!
True! They showed up and showed out! The game was over after the first 4/5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. The only quarter that was truly competitive was the 2nd. Everything else UCLA was superior. With all, I wonder if UCLA will keep Chip Kelley to save those dollars and wait until the end of next season to give him the boot, or can him in a few weeks.
Agreed, although my opinion is we need years and years to be competitive in the B1G. As will $C and OR and WA. These teams are just not designed for a 7-3 slugfest in a driving blizzard.
Out of that group, we are behind years and years I think. USC, Oregon, and Washington have been competitive and nationally relevant in recent times. Washington even reached a CFP if I’m not mistaken, Oregon has been right there in the mix consistently, and for all the bad things USC is for, they have had an 11-1 record, as for UCLA our best season lately was the fluke year of Dorrell’s 10-2 season and there’s been plenty of water that’s ran under the bridge. I wonder in a new, more competitive league - what is the UCLA football program going to be? Will it develop and be a top tier football program consistently, will it continue to be a perennial 7/5, 8/4, or 9/3 at best program which is what we currently are at best, or will it get worse and be a team with losing record seasons? In the PAC 10/12 - for as long as I remember daring to my college years in the early 2000’s we’ve always been the perennial mediocre team. I wonder if that will change for better or worse.
It’s been like that for a long time. I was a student in the early and mid 2000’s and it was terrible. The UCLA Athletic Director has had time to scout and do his due diligence to bring someone who can get right the ship. He’s been in charge for what two years i think, and he must have known that football coach was a position of need. It shouldn’t be a surprise.
Oh noes! Riley turns rock hard football recruits into mountainous marsh mallows.
By the way, there is imminent danger that USC will poach D'Anton Lynn or that he will return to the NFL. He's making a million a year and, if they keep Kelly, they ought to renegotiate Kelly's contract DOWN giving the difference to Lynn and hire O- and O-line coaches of equal quality. Then tell Chipster to go sit in the groundskeeper's shed over in the corner of the Spaulding practice field and look at scouting videos or prepare training table menus or clean the lawn mowers or whatever just to keep himself occupied.
Oh, I wouldn't let The Chipster (OG) prepare the training table menus! He'd eat everything he prepares! LOL. No, Chip must go, and Lynn needs to stay. How Jarmond works this out is what Jarmond is being paid for.
D'Anton wants to stay in SoCal, they just had a kid and the family wants to stay where their family is. If he leaves it won't be to the NFL it will be to take the SDSU head coaching job.
Nah, I think Lynn would want to be somewhere he can make a bigger splash. SD State is too small, peanuts in the multi-billion dollar world of College Football.
This is sort of for Tamara down thread who -- like a lot of us -- is concerned that this win will bail The Kellster out. For what it's worth, it's from the OC Ragister [sic] writeup
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The Bruins’ head coach was left, postgame, to swat away rumors of his imminent firing, saying UCLA athletic director Martin Jarmond had told them they were “inaccurate” and inappropriate.”
“I’ve never been governed by the fear,” Kelly said, “of what other people say.”
Williams, meanwhile, didn’t show his face in a postgame presser – electing not to speak to media, according to a USC spokesperson.
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With that, I am all at sea as to what happens but, alas, am afraid that "firer's remorse" will set in and we'll be stuck with the guy for another season as he waddles through his duties only showing up for rivalry games. (Except, whoever is coaching USC next year, will have marked this one on the calendar as a revenge match!)
That said, you ought to catch some of the USC YouTube videos. They range from common sense appraisal of the letdown that Coach Riley to Gen Z butthurt over "having witnessed THE WORST USC LOSSES IN MY LIFETIME"! (The kid who produced that one was born in 1998 and missed John McKay's swan song twenty years earlier or similar.)
The "media" takeaway from these amateur YouTube videos is that Caleb Williams walked off the field saying he would not be available for the postgame press soiree and (inferred) he would probably not ever speak to the press for the rest of his mortal existence on the face of the earth. But, then again, the Gods of Olympus never deigned to consort with mere mortals too terribly often as it resulted in weird, obstreperous offspring.
You know, like the poker game where the winner splashes his chips and the losers sit around in a snit and grumble, "shut up and deal!"
By the way, did you know that UCLA beat USC 38-20 on 11/22/2014 in the Rose Bowl?
War... Thank you my friend for chiming in with your always eloquent and thoughtful response infused with a dose of humor and brilliant way with words!
Yes, the firer's remorse may just be our heart sickening reality. It reminds me of a relationship that is overwhemingling awful and then one bouquet is delivered and all the bad is shoved under the rug.
I guess we will be hanging on the proverbial cliff until the doom or bloom arrives, while suc will likely rectify their situation quickly and may even steal Lynn in the process. All the while Blockhead and Jarmond are likely clinking champagne glasses at some fancy steakhouse.
As for Caleb, he will be making millions soon and probably doesn't want to answer the expectedly dumb questions by the media geniuses.
Congrats on the win. Like I mentioned a week or so ago, Our Defense, or lack of, is astounding? Pitiful?
After last year's loses to Utah, and also the D's performance in the bowl game, YOU would have thought that the Utmost Importance would be to shore up the Defense, Apparently Not
Yes, they did win that game 38-20, good ole Jim Moron won that one! Where is he now? Oh, he's at UCONN. And what is UCONN's record this year? 2-9 you say... hmm. Anyway, that 2014 win was actually a bigger win, both teams were ranked and in fact I believe UCLA ended up ranked in the top-10 that year! Even though they didn't win the Conference but did win their bowl game against a good Kansas State team (barely, but a win is a win).
Clearly we have well-chronicled issues, chronicled eloquently and accurately by many of us on this very platform but let's not forget to take a moment and celebrate not only beating Just $C and spoiling Caleb's home finale, and birthday as it happens, and keeping that sword out of his hand at game's end, but physically manhandling them and winning consecutive games at the mausoleum for the first time since the days of Cade & 8-in-a-row as well as the character the players showed to put "division" and last Saturday's shitshow aside to be the more physical, the more passionate, and yes - that's the winning team! (h/t the old Frisbee Cheer)
I would be happy to gamble on Lynn as a head coach. After all, how has paying big money for a big name head coach worked out for a lot of schools? (Including us!)
Hmm. The last time UCLA passed on a coordinator who was on staff was Jedd Fisch, Arizona head coach and look what he has done with that program in 3 years, 1-11 to 5-7 to probably 9-3 and definitely the most improved team in the Pac-12. I don't think Washington or Oregon would want to play Arizona right now. Jedd Fisch wasn't "a name" so UCLA needed "a name" and now they got one who they need to jettison asap. I'd definitely go with Lynn, and I don't think it would be a gamble. Look at the football program right now... it can't drop much lower, the only direction it can go now is up or stay where it is. I think Lynn can help the trajectory back to the upside.
Well, I definitely agree he can recruit better because Kelly doesn't recruit! LOL. The reasons UCLA gets most of their talent today is because of the University itself and its academic reputation and it's location or some of these players see they can play D1 football in one of the big city media centers (get more exposure) and they can actually start or play whereas they go to Alabama or Georgia and warm the bench. I think those are to two big reasons Kelly gets recruits and portal players. With a better head coach who will actually DOES THEIR JOB and grows the program (like a Jedd Fisch), the coach can add, oh and we will be a contender in the Big-10. So, you get all that exposure doubled!
I think it be the same problem we are currently in right now. Fisch has improved Arizona this year, but many of us would have been calling for his head after that 1-11 season and definitely tried to run him out of town with a 5-7 the following, even this season for Arizona it hadn’t clicked until the past month. I understand the reasoning of trying to give Lynn a shot, but a big gamble just based on year of collegiate experience under his belt. Granted, UCLA has been night and day defensively this year compared to last year. Again, a big gamble that can pay big time.
Happy for the Bruins, but this season's crosstown match was essentially a meaningless game being fought solely for city pride. Compared to the deflated and rapidly tanking U$C team, I think UCLA possessed more motivation in wanting to avenge last season's loss at the Rose Bowl and for their improved defense to perform well against Caleb Williams on national TV. I don't think this one game is going to impact the future employment status for either head coach in the near term, but it's more worrisome that the Bruins could end up losing D'Anton Lynn instead (his value has skyrocketed). Jarmond, Wasserman, and other delusional backers of Chip Alford probably won't admit their error any time soon (if at all), and they seem content with the continuing mediocrity of the football program. Meanwhile. I'm still recovering from the usual migraine caused by having to listen to the same repetitive and monotonous tunes played by the U$C band at the end of every down. I need to get some more aspirin...
The next big takeaway from this season, aside from Kelly's retention, will be if D'Anton Lynn be retained. He had full-on nationwide exposure last afternoon and ripe for the picking by the pros or colleges who consider his million buckos salary chump change.
He goes and 99% of the magic of yesterday's and this season's excitement reverts to UCLA playing a continual succession of ASU games: dull and unattractive as dishwater.
We will soon see if Martin Jarmond is a swashbuckling riverboat gambler..
..or Guerror II.
*Exit question: can river boat gamblers "swashbuckle" or is that behavior reserved for pirates and brigands and footpads?
I don't think so, Jimbo Fisher won his last game 51-10 and was fired almost the same day he won that game. You cannot simply ignore six years of crap football and a crap football program with a couple of games at the end of a given season. I think the Chipster (OG) can win all the rest of his games this season, go 9-4 as he did last season and can still be fired. A 9-4 (non title of any kind, meaning no conf championship or any other championship) is not an improvement to a previous 9-4 season, especially when you play the likes of NC Central or Coastal Carolina or a very poor San Diego St team and are counting those games as part of your 9 wins. Sorry, it simply doesn't work like that. Any AD worth their salt would fire Kelly. So, we will see if Jarmond is just another Donut Dan or he is actually a competent AD. Right now, publicly, Jarmond is sounding a lot like Donut Dan, but let's see what he does, not what he says.
Agreed. Neither can we "ignore" Chipster's $6.1 million dollar compensation package, which is contracted to increase by almost $100,000 per, over it's course....
You're spot-on about Lynn, for a number of reasons, his chronological youth not AT ALL to be dismissed in the recruiting discipline.
I believe - in my admittedly overly-grand line of thinking - the university should offer the head coaching job to Lynn, get D'Anton to then hire ND State's Tyler Roehl (an offensive genius) as OC. THEN they would be rock'n....Peace
If Lincoln Riley and the U$C administration tries to steal away D'Anton Lynn from the Bruins to fix their inept defense, or if the latter decides to leave and go elsewhere, my migraine will persist with no remedy available, except maybe the terminatiuon of Chip Alford's contract with UCLA.
If the Bruins beat Cal, they still have an abyssmal record considering 3 of those wins came against pre-conference cupcakes, we didn't play Oregon or Wasington and we lost to ASU.
I do not believe you can evaluate this season based on the surface numbers. Who the heck did we beat? Stanford, Colorado, suc? All had horrible defenses.
Also look at the way Chip mishandled Dante with an offensive scheme that did not come close to maximizing his talent. Oh and how about the last aeveral years? He is 3-3 against suc and has barely crossed the .500 mark by one game.
Chip needs to go and if Jarmond doesn't fire him then as War Plannee noted, we have another Guerror in the AD seat.
Completely agree. Just take the Jimbo Fisher/Texas A&M scenario, Fisher lost 4 games this season; Miami (FL), Alabama, Tennessee & Ole Miss. This is compared to Kelly's losses to Utah, Arizona, Arizona St. and Oregon St. Utah has ended up being a below average team this season in my opinion mainly due to losing Cam Rising, Arizona St is pathetic, no other description will suffice, Oregon St. is above average, and I think Arizona is the best team in the Pac-12 right now. That's compared to Miami (FL) - an average team, Alabama, may be the best team in the country right now (we will see when they play Georgia), Tennessee - an average team and Ole Miss, a little above average. So tougher competition for Texas A&M definitely and A&M finally said, we've had enough, this guy isn't winning enough, pay him his $76m and get him outta here. Compared to keeping a coach with a much worse track record in an admittedly weaker football conference because they have too much invested in him perhaps? I'm not sure why anyone would keep such an albatross? Maybe UCLA wants to set new LOW ATTENDANCE records at the Rose Bowl perhaps?
Jarmond's lack of action to fire Chip is just beyond any logic. It should happened long ago. There isn't one rational reason to continue this charade.
If Jarmond has a big ego to match his big paycheck then we are in trouble as he may just try to prove that the extension he gave ole Chip was the right decision.
As rumors alluded to, I would imagine many of the big donors, Wassie aside, do not hold any endearment toward Chip, and have stoppee or will stop giving as we fall further into financial peril.
Once the shine of the suc win is in the rearview mirror, I hope the fanbase puts the pressure lever to full throttle or the Rosebowl will be nothing more than a ghost town with a tumble weed called Chip blowing in the wind.
That may have been me! I didn't think he was NFL material, but obviously (and happily) I was wrong. He is very good and so far, today is having a good day. I am happy for him; he is really a hard worker and very dedicated. I have met him three or four times now and he is also the nicest guy you'd want to meet. Now he may not be that way all the time and to others, but to me he was and again I'm genuinely happy for him. I hope he continues being successful in the NFL and in life!
I always said he’d likely be a career backup QB. Starting short term because of an injury doesn’t necessarily change that. He’s currently 0 TD, 1 pick, 48.7 rating. He failed at a game winning drive. We’ll see if his second chance (or third?) goes better.
Beat and physically dominanted $outhern Cal... DTR led a game winning drive against their traditional rivals... And Berke has finally been cleared by the NCAA...
Happy for DTR too. Shouldn't give up on fellow Bruin alums and their dreams to excel at the next level, especially if they stick around Westwood for as long as DTR did. If they still haven't developed the necessary skills, or aren't utilizing their talents to their full potential, then it's the mediocre "offensive genius" level of coaching at UCLA that's to blame. It's also unfortunate that DTR didn't have as good of a supporting defense while he was with the Bruins.
GO SENTINELS!!!!
Huh?? Not getting your reference....
Inglewood High School Sentinels. TJ Hardin. Plus, Justyn Martin.
Thanks for clarification, AB! :-)
Are they likely UCLA bound ? The NCAA football signing date is in February or so, if I am not mistaken. Should Kelly remain coach, please for heaven's sake go somewhere.
Harden ran for 150 yards ot something TODAY. Martin is a backup QB. They ard on the current roster.
Thanks for the input. If only Kelly had not let them down game after game ............
Martin is All-Conference Academic, he's KILLING it in the classroom.... I expect him to earn his degree, then enter the transfer portal. HOPEFULLY, he'll hook up with another IHS alum - Reggie Theus, AD at Bethune-Cookman - and get all the snaps he could ever want, while REALLY injecting a strong punch into BC's recruiting....
It reminds me again how much I like Saturday afternoon games. Does this mean Kelly won't be fired?
I have a bad feeling that if we beat Cal, Chip will remain and Lynn will leave. Jarmond may weaken and forget about all the horrible losses and overall bad record that Chip has racked up.
How can you keep a guy who shows up 2-3 games a year?
Great win, Bruins!
Well Jarmond gave Chip an extension even though Chip's record was terrible and remains terrible. If Chip was at a top tier Football program like Ohio State or Georgia or Michigan, he would have been gone after the initial 3 bad years. I just don't know if Jarmond will do the right thing. I hope he does.
I did not watch the game AT ALL. I only heard of the final score on my way out of the Aquatics Club. Somebody said UCLA won and my heart skipped a fraction of a beat. LOL !!!!!!!!! I guess my overall cardio pulmonary system can tolerate it. Had it been a full beat or two, then the Aquatics club people may have to use the defibrillator on me. Boy oh boy, it is tough to be a UCLA alum and fan these days.
I'm glad you're still with us, Henry. It was an exciting and satisfying game.
You deadpanned it. It appears Kelly knows exactly what he is doing, precisely when he can push the button and when he should not. What a shame UCLA lends itself to be led in the nose by this con artist of a coach.
I understand your point. If Chip is truly manipulating Jarmond, that would be a new low. I guess we will have to wait and see what Jarmond is made of...
I will say it is odd how UCLA played so well today yet played so badly for much of the season. The lack of developing Moore through an offense that complimented his talents. The lack of recruiting which resulted in many problems such as our kicking game and o-line. The bad losses. The overall bad record. The fact that Chip has never shown a true love for or connection with UCLA and supporters.
So many negatives. It's hard for me to fathom not firing Chip but Jarmond may not have the courage to do so. I just don't know.
But I will say that there is no way I couldn't feel complete joy in beating suc. Too much bad blood with suc and the blue and gold is in my DNA.
I wouldn't say UCLA had the greatest of games today. UCLA won this game by the defenses of both teams. SUC's defense... well sucked. Probably the worse defense I've seen in college and they have been consistently bad all season. UCLA's defense was fantastic throughout the entire game and frankly, they won this game for the Bruins today. As for the Chipster (OG), I'm still confident he will be gone once we hit that December contract deliverable. If not, more tarps at the Rose Bowl, more football loses, more excuses, more snarky answers and behaviors from the head coach, more donuts missing from the meeting rooms and more red ink for the football program and the Athletic Dept as a whole. The Big 10 money will only go so far without any revenue from the football program.
Yes, Chip is certainly the HC donut equivalent of AD Dan 🤣
If Chip is shown the EXIT, what do you think of Lynn as the HC choice for the Bruins. He is such an outstanding D coach and he could certainly hire a great OC. He turned our D around in 1 year, which is amazing.
Regarding " the blue and gold is in my DNA ", it is in mine too although I received my doctorate from Wisconsin. Born and raised there, I came out to UCLA for my undergraduate studies. Many of my cohorts were surprised because back then, most midwestern kids perceived California merely as land of the Beach Boys, Hollywood movies, the hippies' counter culture movements and anti - war protesters Nothing academic at all. I did it because UCLA hoops totally transfixed me. I got to go there and my parents never objected. But when I graduated and decided to go on to grad school, Wisconsin offered me scholarship in the form of teaching assistantship ahead of UCLA. They gave it to me well after I accepted Wisconsin's. So this is the story of my double alma mater.
You're right. Chip never acts nor speaks with any pride of being UCLA coach. So what's the hesitation to cut ties with him ?!?
I just don't understand the hesitation in cutting ties with Chip - it is truly mind boggling to say the least.
Hmm ... It depends on whether Jarmond has enough guts to pull the trigger. I know this win may lead him to dither, reconsider the issue all over again the way Guererro infamously did.
Probably Not
The announcers were touting him yesterday, give me a break
yeah...
no chance.
USC overpaid for a used Lincoln.
I guess I'm not surprised that Riley and Caleb didn't have a great 2nd year... after all, a trojan is only good once!
Hahahahaha ....... Where in the world did you pick up this cryptic statement ???????????
Oh stop that
LOL !!! You can say that.
Heh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoxlShsE4o
"..son you're gonna drive me to drinkin' if you don't stop drivin'....that...hot....rod....Lincoln!"
lolololololol exactly!
Boy, you should never have mixed emotions whenever you beat those red and yellow guys, but does this offset a still-mediocre season and the stench from last week's stinkburger? Hats off to Ethan Garbers and I guess he would have been the difference against ASU? Still, very proud of the players who could have called it in after last week and, in particular the D and its coaching staff, who pushed it in their faces! Go Bruins!
You're right. They could have thrown in the towels but they didn't. That speaks volume about their character.
True! They showed up and showed out! The game was over after the first 4/5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. The only quarter that was truly competitive was the 2nd. Everything else UCLA was superior. With all, I wonder if UCLA will keep Chip Kelley to save those dollars and wait until the end of next season to give him the boot, or can him in a few weeks.
UCLA better fire Chip and that's up to Jarmond. The revenue dollars lost will be HUGE and morale will drop into the abyss if Chip is retained.
The Bruins will be demolished in the BIG if Chip is still on the sidelines.
UCLA has always stood for excellence except in Football - it is mind boggling the mediocrity that has been tolerated.
Agreed, although my opinion is we need years and years to be competitive in the B1G. As will $C and OR and WA. These teams are just not designed for a 7-3 slugfest in a driving blizzard.
Out of that group, we are behind years and years I think. USC, Oregon, and Washington have been competitive and nationally relevant in recent times. Washington even reached a CFP if I’m not mistaken, Oregon has been right there in the mix consistently, and for all the bad things USC is for, they have had an 11-1 record, as for UCLA our best season lately was the fluke year of Dorrell’s 10-2 season and there’s been plenty of water that’s ran under the bridge. I wonder in a new, more competitive league - what is the UCLA football program going to be? Will it develop and be a top tier football program consistently, will it continue to be a perennial 7/5, 8/4, or 9/3 at best program which is what we currently are at best, or will it get worse and be a team with losing record seasons? In the PAC 10/12 - for as long as I remember daring to my college years in the early 2000’s we’ve always been the perennial mediocre team. I wonder if that will change for better or worse.
Good questions.
It’s been like that for a long time. I was a student in the early and mid 2000’s and it was terrible. The UCLA Athletic Director has had time to scout and do his due diligence to bring someone who can get right the ship. He’s been in charge for what two years i think, and he must have known that football coach was a position of need. It shouldn’t be a surprise.
Why can't we swap with USC. Let them take Chip Kelly and we take Lincoln Riley ?!?
Oh noes! Riley turns rock hard football recruits into mountainous marsh mallows.
By the way, there is imminent danger that USC will poach D'Anton Lynn or that he will return to the NFL. He's making a million a year and, if they keep Kelly, they ought to renegotiate Kelly's contract DOWN giving the difference to Lynn and hire O- and O-line coaches of equal quality. Then tell Chipster to go sit in the groundskeeper's shed over in the corner of the Spaulding practice field and look at scouting videos or prepare training table menus or clean the lawn mowers or whatever just to keep himself occupied.
Well said, dude. Sheer beauty in fact.
Oh, I wouldn't let The Chipster (OG) prepare the training table menus! He'd eat everything he prepares! LOL. No, Chip must go, and Lynn needs to stay. How Jarmond works this out is what Jarmond is being paid for.
10-4 good buddy! Affirmative-o! Roger, over and unders!
100%
D'Anton wants to stay in SoCal, they just had a kid and the family wants to stay where their family is. If he leaves it won't be to the NFL it will be to take the SDSU head coaching job.
Let's hope he is given the UCLA job!
Nah, I think Lynn would want to be somewhere he can make a bigger splash. SD State is too small, peanuts in the multi-billion dollar world of College Football.
Hell NO!
Beat the Cal Golden Bears!
This is sort of for Tamara down thread who -- like a lot of us -- is concerned that this win will bail The Kellster out. For what it's worth, it's from the OC Ragister [sic] writeup
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The Bruins’ head coach was left, postgame, to swat away rumors of his imminent firing, saying UCLA athletic director Martin Jarmond had told them they were “inaccurate” and inappropriate.”
“I’ve never been governed by the fear,” Kelly said, “of what other people say.”
Williams, meanwhile, didn’t show his face in a postgame presser – electing not to speak to media, according to a USC spokesperson.
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With that, I am all at sea as to what happens but, alas, am afraid that "firer's remorse" will set in and we'll be stuck with the guy for another season as he waddles through his duties only showing up for rivalry games. (Except, whoever is coaching USC next year, will have marked this one on the calendar as a revenge match!)
That said, you ought to catch some of the USC YouTube videos. They range from common sense appraisal of the letdown that Coach Riley to Gen Z butthurt over "having witnessed THE WORST USC LOSSES IN MY LIFETIME"! (The kid who produced that one was born in 1998 and missed John McKay's swan song twenty years earlier or similar.)
Mature assessment of USC loss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cOTe7xUDWI
Butthurt Yute Reaction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD7MrbGO38Q
The "media" takeaway from these amateur YouTube videos is that Caleb Williams walked off the field saying he would not be available for the postgame press soiree and (inferred) he would probably not ever speak to the press for the rest of his mortal existence on the face of the earth. But, then again, the Gods of Olympus never deigned to consort with mere mortals too terribly often as it resulted in weird, obstreperous offspring.
You know, like the poker game where the winner splashes his chips and the losers sit around in a snit and grumble, "shut up and deal!"
By the way, did you know that UCLA beat USC 38-20 on 11/22/2014 in the Rose Bowl?
''Good night, Gracie!"
War... Thank you my friend for chiming in with your always eloquent and thoughtful response infused with a dose of humor and brilliant way with words!
Yes, the firer's remorse may just be our heart sickening reality. It reminds me of a relationship that is overwhemingling awful and then one bouquet is delivered and all the bad is shoved under the rug.
I guess we will be hanging on the proverbial cliff until the doom or bloom arrives, while suc will likely rectify their situation quickly and may even steal Lynn in the process. All the while Blockhead and Jarmond are likely clinking champagne glasses at some fancy steakhouse.
As for Caleb, he will be making millions soon and probably doesn't want to answer the expectedly dumb questions by the media geniuses.
J Tamara.
Congrats on the win. Like I mentioned a week or so ago, Our Defense, or lack of, is astounding? Pitiful?
After last year's loses to Utah, and also the D's performance in the bowl game, YOU would have thought that the Utmost Importance would be to shore up the Defense, Apparently Not
Good luck in whatever Bowl Game you end up in
Yes, they did win that game 38-20, good ole Jim Moron won that one! Where is he now? Oh, he's at UCONN. And what is UCONN's record this year? 2-9 you say... hmm. Anyway, that 2014 win was actually a bigger win, both teams were ranked and in fact I believe UCLA ended up ranked in the top-10 that year! Even though they didn't win the Conference but did win their bowl game against a good Kansas State team (barely, but a win is a win).
Clearly we have well-chronicled issues, chronicled eloquently and accurately by many of us on this very platform but let's not forget to take a moment and celebrate not only beating Just $C and spoiling Caleb's home finale, and birthday as it happens, and keeping that sword out of his hand at game's end, but physically manhandling them and winning consecutive games at the mausoleum for the first time since the days of Cade & 8-in-a-row as well as the character the players showed to put "division" and last Saturday's shitshow aside to be the more physical, the more passionate, and yes - that's the winning team! (h/t the old Frisbee Cheer)
I would be happy to gamble on Lynn as a head coach. After all, how has paying big money for a big name head coach worked out for a lot of schools? (Including us!)
Me 2!
Hmm. The last time UCLA passed on a coordinator who was on staff was Jedd Fisch, Arizona head coach and look what he has done with that program in 3 years, 1-11 to 5-7 to probably 9-3 and definitely the most improved team in the Pac-12. I don't think Washington or Oregon would want to play Arizona right now. Jedd Fisch wasn't "a name" so UCLA needed "a name" and now they got one who they need to jettison asap. I'd definitely go with Lynn, and I don't think it would be a gamble. Look at the football program right now... it can't drop much lower, the only direction it can go now is up or stay where it is. I think Lynn can help the trajectory back to the upside.
100%! And I’m sure he will recruit better too!
Well, I definitely agree he can recruit better because Kelly doesn't recruit! LOL. The reasons UCLA gets most of their talent today is because of the University itself and its academic reputation and it's location or some of these players see they can play D1 football in one of the big city media centers (get more exposure) and they can actually start or play whereas they go to Alabama or Georgia and warm the bench. I think those are to two big reasons Kelly gets recruits and portal players. With a better head coach who will actually DOES THEIR JOB and grows the program (like a Jedd Fisch), the coach can add, oh and we will be a contender in the Big-10. So, you get all that exposure doubled!
points for its and it's in the same sentence no less!
Yep, bad grammar and it should read "actually DO THEIR JOB". LOL
I love words!
I think it be the same problem we are currently in right now. Fisch has improved Arizona this year, but many of us would have been calling for his head after that 1-11 season and definitely tried to run him out of town with a 5-7 the following, even this season for Arizona it hadn’t clicked until the past month. I understand the reasoning of trying to give Lynn a shot, but a big gamble just based on year of collegiate experience under his belt. Granted, UCLA has been night and day defensively this year compared to last year. Again, a big gamble that can pay big time.
The Fisch beat Kyle this weekend.
Happy for the Bruins, but this season's crosstown match was essentially a meaningless game being fought solely for city pride. Compared to the deflated and rapidly tanking U$C team, I think UCLA possessed more motivation in wanting to avenge last season's loss at the Rose Bowl and for their improved defense to perform well against Caleb Williams on national TV. I don't think this one game is going to impact the future employment status for either head coach in the near term, but it's more worrisome that the Bruins could end up losing D'Anton Lynn instead (his value has skyrocketed). Jarmond, Wasserman, and other delusional backers of Chip Alford probably won't admit their error any time soon (if at all), and they seem content with the continuing mediocrity of the football program. Meanwhile. I'm still recovering from the usual migraine caused by having to listen to the same repetitive and monotonous tunes played by the U$C band at the end of every down. I need to get some more aspirin...
The next big takeaway from this season, aside from Kelly's retention, will be if D'Anton Lynn be retained. He had full-on nationwide exposure last afternoon and ripe for the picking by the pros or colleges who consider his million buckos salary chump change.
He goes and 99% of the magic of yesterday's and this season's excitement reverts to UCLA playing a continual succession of ASU games: dull and unattractive as dishwater.
We will soon see if Martin Jarmond is a swashbuckling riverboat gambler..
..or Guerror II.
*Exit question: can river boat gamblers "swashbuckle" or is that behavior reserved for pirates and brigands and footpads?
Perhaps, but hey, ya still gotta play the game(s) right?
If the Bruins play like this against Cal, and can produce another near-complete, beat down stomping, it just could save the ole Chipsterooney's j.o.b.
I don't think so, Jimbo Fisher won his last game 51-10 and was fired almost the same day he won that game. You cannot simply ignore six years of crap football and a crap football program with a couple of games at the end of a given season. I think the Chipster (OG) can win all the rest of his games this season, go 9-4 as he did last season and can still be fired. A 9-4 (non title of any kind, meaning no conf championship or any other championship) is not an improvement to a previous 9-4 season, especially when you play the likes of NC Central or Coastal Carolina or a very poor San Diego St team and are counting those games as part of your 9 wins. Sorry, it simply doesn't work like that. Any AD worth their salt would fire Kelly. So, we will see if Jarmond is just another Donut Dan or he is actually a competent AD. Right now, publicly, Jarmond is sounding a lot like Donut Dan, but let's see what he does, not what he says.
Agreed. Neither can we "ignore" Chipster's $6.1 million dollar compensation package, which is contracted to increase by almost $100,000 per, over it's course....
You're spot-on about Lynn, for a number of reasons, his chronological youth not AT ALL to be dismissed in the recruiting discipline.
I believe - in my admittedly overly-grand line of thinking - the university should offer the head coaching job to Lynn, get D'Anton to then hire ND State's Tyler Roehl (an offensive genius) as OC. THEN they would be rock'n....Peace
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If Lincoln Riley and the U$C administration tries to steal away D'Anton Lynn from the Bruins to fix their inept defense, or if the latter decides to leave and go elsewhere, my migraine will persist with no remedy available, except maybe the terminatiuon of Chip Alford's contract with UCLA.
Feels hopeless right now if you look at our defense, my buddy in Alabama said just as much, get your self a new D Coordinator.
Get win for your Bruins
Great win for the Bruins
However irreverent, they play like this against Cal, I just might take back all the bad $#!t I said about the ole Chipsterooney......
If the Bruins beat Cal, they still have an abyssmal record considering 3 of those wins came against pre-conference cupcakes, we didn't play Oregon or Wasington and we lost to ASU.
I do not believe you can evaluate this season based on the surface numbers. Who the heck did we beat? Stanford, Colorado, suc? All had horrible defenses.
Also look at the way Chip mishandled Dante with an offensive scheme that did not come close to maximizing his talent. Oh and how about the last aeveral years? He is 3-3 against suc and has barely crossed the .500 mark by one game.
Chip needs to go and if Jarmond doesn't fire him then as War Plannee noted, we have another Guerror in the AD seat.
Completely agree. Just take the Jimbo Fisher/Texas A&M scenario, Fisher lost 4 games this season; Miami (FL), Alabama, Tennessee & Ole Miss. This is compared to Kelly's losses to Utah, Arizona, Arizona St. and Oregon St. Utah has ended up being a below average team this season in my opinion mainly due to losing Cam Rising, Arizona St is pathetic, no other description will suffice, Oregon St. is above average, and I think Arizona is the best team in the Pac-12 right now. That's compared to Miami (FL) - an average team, Alabama, may be the best team in the country right now (we will see when they play Georgia), Tennessee - an average team and Ole Miss, a little above average. So tougher competition for Texas A&M definitely and A&M finally said, we've had enough, this guy isn't winning enough, pay him his $76m and get him outta here. Compared to keeping a coach with a much worse track record in an admittedly weaker football conference because they have too much invested in him perhaps? I'm not sure why anyone would keep such an albatross? Maybe UCLA wants to set new LOW ATTENDANCE records at the Rose Bowl perhaps?
Jarmond's lack of action to fire Chip is just beyond any logic. It should happened long ago. There isn't one rational reason to continue this charade.
If Jarmond has a big ego to match his big paycheck then we are in trouble as he may just try to prove that the extension he gave ole Chip was the right decision.
As rumors alluded to, I would imagine many of the big donors, Wassie aside, do not hold any endearment toward Chip, and have stoppee or will stop giving as we fall further into financial peril.
Once the shine of the suc win is in the rearview mirror, I hope the fanbase puts the pressure lever to full throttle or the Rosebowl will be nothing more than a ghost town with a tumble weed called Chip blowing in the wind.
By the way who was the guy who was so insistent that DTR would never play in the nfl?
That may have been me! I didn't think he was NFL material, but obviously (and happily) I was wrong. He is very good and so far, today is having a good day. I am happy for him; he is really a hard worker and very dedicated. I have met him three or four times now and he is also the nicest guy you'd want to meet. Now he may not be that way all the time and to others, but to me he was and again I'm genuinely happy for him. I hope he continues being successful in the NFL and in life!
I always said he’d likely be a career backup QB. Starting short term because of an injury doesn’t necessarily change that. He’s currently 0 TD, 1 pick, 48.7 rating. He failed at a game winning drive. We’ll see if his second chance (or third?) goes better.
Beat and physically dominanted $outhern Cal... DTR led a game winning drive against their traditional rivals... And Berke has finally been cleared by the NCAA...
Not a bad weekend! 🔔
Happy for DTR too. Shouldn't give up on fellow Bruin alums and their dreams to excel at the next level, especially if they stick around Westwood for as long as DTR did. If they still haven't developed the necessary skills, or aren't utilizing their talents to their full potential, then it's the mediocre "offensive genius" level of coaching at UCLA that's to blame. It's also unfortunate that DTR didn't have as good of a supporting defense while he was with the Bruins.