Looking how difficult it has been to restart the NBA and MLB and requiring closed off facilities and games from the outside world. And still we do not have a set date for those sports to return as of yet.
And after reading what the UCLA players demand, and I don't blame them in the least for their demands. I would say the chance of a season taking place is zero percent. All it takes is one player or coach or support staff at one school to test positive during the season put a wrench in things. The whole team goes under quarantine, the other team they played if its within a few days does also. The next two games for both schools are postponed. And its going to happen all over the country.
Tell me what I am missing here? I think they are going to try to do a season but it seems impossible.
There's a pretty easy answer for why they're going to try and do a season even if it negatively affects the players: money. Athletic departments need the money from a football season just to get through the year, and losing it would cause a lot of athletic departments to go pretty deep into the red.
The economics of college sports are ridiculous as-is, and throwing a pandemic into the mix really highlights those pain points. There's part of me that'd love to do a deeper dive into it, but I don't think I could do it justice.
I get why they are going to try and of course its the money. But I have read numerous stories about the upcoming season and I have read nothing questioning if there is going to be a season. Everyone is just ignoring the elephant in the room. I hope I am wrong.
It's literally everyone in a position to make decisions. Even the most conservative approaches ignore that things are worse now than in March, when stay at home orders went into effect.
I want the season to happen for selfish reasons. The non con schedule is 2 or 3 wins and the Pac-12 south is going to be competitive. 6, 7, 8 wins with a bowl invite is very doable. But I don't want to get my homes up.
The pandemic is not looking good in most of the Pac-12 schools locations. And whose is to say that schools are just going through the motions. Knowing that the season probably won't happen but they will let events dictate. Like the NBA shutting down after Golbert tested positive. A few positive tests among staff or players at Pac-12 schools and it will all shut down. Perhaps before the first game.
But the coaching staff, support staff, family of the players and even the referees are not. Its a landmine of problems to navigate not just as simple as players have little to worry about.
As Winkelman mentioned, families and staff are not college-aged nor elite athletes. On top of that, long term effects of the disease are unclear, and there have been many reports of lingering lung and cardio damage even in mild cases. and there are relatively few data points in elite athletes, so it's hard to say what the disease will look like in that population. And, above all, the disease isn't serious for everyone, but it could be serious for anyone.
It's a f*cking pandemic, and I'm proud of these athletes for banding together and standing up for their safety and their rights.
Not true. Every single college student in the country has been impacted by having his/her schools closed, classes only offered online, sports and campus living deferred, etc. If you are referring specifically to the likelihood of any of the players suffering significant morbidity or worse from covid-19, true, the stats are in their favor individually (but are not 100%), but there are also a million more moving parts revolving around these college student-athletes' lives. This includes coaches, staff, admin, professors, and the thousands of employees who keep a university functioning every day. I'd like to think the players' demands also included those people in their considerations.
I read those first couple of paragraphs and I wonder exactly what they are referring to when they mention "neglected and mismanaged injury cases", muffled voices, and "health and safety in the hands of those who have perpetually failed us". I shudder to think what our Bruin student-athletes have experienced that makes them describe events this way and which certainly played a big role in creating this current list of demands.
As winkleman and DD eloquently discuss above, I don't see how college football happens when you look at it from a public health perspective while I also don't see how there isn't college football when you look at it as a commodity. Our Bruins and the NCAA seem to be taking opposite sides. Good on our players for their stance.
The UCLA Fielding School of Public Health epidemiologists would be a good source for the selection of and/or approval any third-party officials overseeing the health and welfare of UCLA athletes.
Well played by DTR
Looking how difficult it has been to restart the NBA and MLB and requiring closed off facilities and games from the outside world. And still we do not have a set date for those sports to return as of yet.
And after reading what the UCLA players demand, and I don't blame them in the least for their demands. I would say the chance of a season taking place is zero percent. All it takes is one player or coach or support staff at one school to test positive during the season put a wrench in things. The whole team goes under quarantine, the other team they played if its within a few days does also. The next two games for both schools are postponed. And its going to happen all over the country.
Tell me what I am missing here? I think they are going to try to do a season but it seems impossible.
There's a pretty easy answer for why they're going to try and do a season even if it negatively affects the players: money. Athletic departments need the money from a football season just to get through the year, and losing it would cause a lot of athletic departments to go pretty deep into the red.
The economics of college sports are ridiculous as-is, and throwing a pandemic into the mix really highlights those pain points. There's part of me that'd love to do a deeper dive into it, but I don't think I could do it justice.
I get why they are going to try and of course its the money. But I have read numerous stories about the upcoming season and I have read nothing questioning if there is going to be a season. Everyone is just ignoring the elephant in the room. I hope I am wrong.
It's literally everyone in a position to make decisions. Even the most conservative approaches ignore that things are worse now than in March, when stay at home orders went into effect.
I want the season to happen for selfish reasons. The non con schedule is 2 or 3 wins and the Pac-12 south is going to be competitive. 6, 7, 8 wins with a bowl invite is very doable. But I don't want to get my homes up.
The pandemic is not looking good in most of the Pac-12 schools locations. And whose is to say that schools are just going through the motions. Knowing that the season probably won't happen but they will let events dictate. Like the NBA shutting down after Golbert tested positive. A few positive tests among staff or players at Pac-12 schools and it will all shut down. Perhaps before the first game.
The number of people college-aged, not to mention elite athletes, impacted in any way by covid is microscopic.
But the coaching staff, support staff, family of the players and even the referees are not. Its a landmine of problems to navigate not just as simple as players have little to worry about.
As Winkelman mentioned, families and staff are not college-aged nor elite athletes. On top of that, long term effects of the disease are unclear, and there have been many reports of lingering lung and cardio damage even in mild cases. and there are relatively few data points in elite athletes, so it's hard to say what the disease will look like in that population. And, above all, the disease isn't serious for everyone, but it could be serious for anyone.
It's a f*cking pandemic, and I'm proud of these athletes for banding together and standing up for their safety and their rights.
Not true. Every single college student in the country has been impacted by having his/her schools closed, classes only offered online, sports and campus living deferred, etc. If you are referring specifically to the likelihood of any of the players suffering significant morbidity or worse from covid-19, true, the stats are in their favor individually (but are not 100%), but there are also a million more moving parts revolving around these college student-athletes' lives. This includes coaches, staff, admin, professors, and the thousands of employees who keep a university functioning every day. I'd like to think the players' demands also included those people in their considerations.
Well imagine that, student-athletes acting educated and informed. Go Bruins!
I read those first couple of paragraphs and I wonder exactly what they are referring to when they mention "neglected and mismanaged injury cases", muffled voices, and "health and safety in the hands of those who have perpetually failed us". I shudder to think what our Bruin student-athletes have experienced that makes them describe events this way and which certainly played a big role in creating this current list of demands.
As winkleman and DD eloquently discuss above, I don't see how college football happens when you look at it from a public health perspective while I also don't see how there isn't college football when you look at it as a commodity. Our Bruins and the NCAA seem to be taking opposite sides. Good on our players for their stance.
The UCLA Fielding School of Public Health epidemiologists would be a good source for the selection of and/or approval any third-party officials overseeing the health and welfare of UCLA athletes.