I left this out of the post because I couldn't find a good way to put it in, but I'm putting it down here in the comments so you can get some more commentary:
I’m trying to figure out a way to put this next part, so I apologize in advance if it comes off wrong. I’ve listened to enough of Richard Johnson of Sports Illustrated and Split Zone Duo to know that young African-American coaches do not typically get this kind of opportunity often, and when you give a young African-American coach this opportunity, potential players and their families, who are themselves predominantly African-American, will notice and look on you more favorably. This is both a good thing for recruiting and for advancing people into positions they normally do not get a chance at.
It will be a make or break season for Chip Kelly. To me, this seems like a very first step towards the ultimate fate of Kelly's tenure at UCLA . The background noise, the disenchantments regarding the football program is simmering, palpable whenever we talked in the season ticket holder sections. Yes, I was once mocked about being an alum small donor, season ticket holder as if they were anything even worth mentioning. But from what I was told, our opinion, our feedback is indeed reaching the AD's office and the administration in myriad untold channels. To a person, none considered Kelly worthwhile for retention as UCLA approaches that giant, crucial step into Big Ten territories soon.
I want Kelly to win the way he did at Oregon. I am not anti - Kelly for the sake of it. Honestly, he has not lived up to the expectations, consider the huge contract signed. Absent this new NFL hire, nothing he does has indicated that next year would not be a same old song from the past.
Other than you telling us now, I think someone briefly mentioned something about football the AD was pondering when we were in NYC for those triumphant basketball games. He said he was not sure about the exact nature of it but that something would occur.
"December, I discussed reports that had floated around the program that McGovern would be stepping away from the team following the season due to his health issues. It wasn’t a surprising report given how the past year had gone, and with sightings of him starting to return around the program, it at least looked like he would still be around to help the team in some capacity. Then McGovern did an interview where he stated his intentions of returning next year, and he ended up coaching the bowl game."
I have come to value TMB for many reasons, chief among them that I seem to be wandering into senility and the "personal" emails I receive from you all are like BRO or other pay services except your missives seem so, so, so..intimate.
But, here I need your help as I stumble into the purple haze of my mental gloaming. Was not McGovern a wunderkind of sorts at the beginning of last season who fell into disgrace and then illness or something and blew the El Paso Pitt debacle? I kid you not! The only other McGovern I remember in my pathetic existence was the B-24 pilot from South Dakota who ran against Nixon in 1972 and lost every state (except Massachusetts, of course) and territory except for DC.
Yes, it's that serious.
Anyway, hope the earnest dreams of getting a staff in place for FB as good as Cronin's in BB.
..and, by the way, awfully nice that the former president of the American League that he could find the time to resurrect the Bruin roundball efforts. Wot?
Someone pass me a glass of warm milk and a plate of Zwiebach. And, I have to tinkle.
Hey my friend, I met McGovern in Madison when he campaigned in Madison. Teresa, his daughter later lived there too. Unfortunately, she collapsed and died on a bank of snow one frigid night in down town Madison while intoxicated.
With Kelly now, nobody had anything good to say about him. Troy Aikman attended the last home week as we did. Upon spotting him, someone did want to approach him and ask if he was wrong about the football coach whose signing Aikman engineered behind the scene. Of course we knew he was joking on such an occasion but the consensus is, every penny of that expensive contract has gone to waste.
Kelly's reputation and image befits these iconic words : - " You can fool all the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time ."
What a tragic tale for a man destined to lose the race for POTUS ignominiously. While not of his party, I sincerely respected what George McGovern did during WWII. (Did you know that both he and James Stewart were B-24 pilots?) Jimmy in the Eighth AF and George in the 15th. After the war, George flew food resupply in Italy before coming home.
How utterly noble.
But the tale of Teresa and her dying of hypothermia while drunk is quite sad. (I served four years at SAC Headquarters and lurched out of the O Club many times on a Winters night in an effort to find my room in the BOQ. More than once, a pause in the snow and near zero temperatures could have done me and my mates in had we tarried too long.) She and her parents did not deserve this fate.
One often wonders what motivated Aikman to gin up the alumni effort to land The Kellster. Love ti see a National Enquirer piece on what obvious intrigue lay behind that -- especially after Kelly blew himself up in Philly and squatted and dropped an immense steamer in San Francisco with the Niners.
Maybe we can fool him into thinking there's a glistering oppo at Alcorn AM+&M or something, Henry!
As for George and Jimmy serving together in US Air Force, this is truly way before my time.
By the way, Jimmy Stewart and Gary Cooper, especially the latter, was my dad's all time favorite movie stars. Stewart came in close second by a hair breath. My dad and the High Noon movie cassette went everywhere together, LOL !! I only liked the portion where the tall and lanky Cooper ( not handsome the way my dad said but courageous and determined ) stepped out to face his nemesis, returning to settle score with him after everyone had fled in fear, including Grace Kelly the wife. With the music " Do not forsake me " in the background, Cooper's sheer guts, steely determination and that unyielding conviction to defeat them and survive really overwhelmed me emotionally as a young kid. Listen, our UCLA BRUINS must be gutsy all the time like Cooper did !!!! LOL !!!
Henry, I share your sentiments. My dad was WWII fighter pilot/flight instructor so our sentiments leaned towards General Stewart, of course. Both actors evinced in their roles and in their private lives that steeliness you refer to. Both were magnificent to watch in their movies --along with their co-stars. Grace Kelly and Gary Cooper in the mentioned classic, High Noon, and Ms Kelly in Rear Window with Jimmy Stewart. Two very different types of movies but two movies I'd pay admission to see and hunker down in a lodge seat with an immense bucket of popcorn and a giant soda (health concerns notwithstanding), and watch with great relish.
Like the former days of UCLA football, it's a shame that movies such as these are not made anymore.
Ahhhhhh, the thrills of our our youth; the Saturday afternoons, etc.
I'll spare you my memories of Prothro and Vermeil, and -- in a grudging sense -- the late Terry Donahue, but the Bruins of yore were as watchable as the decent, exciting movies of the bygone Hollywood. (Hell, I even miss Bob Toledo!)
I don't think anyone really considered McGovern to be excellent at his job. The defense looked good early with the caveat of facing weak competition and it being rather new. The Washington game even today stands out a pretty significant outlier for both teams (UCLA's defense and UDub's offense) but you could maybe hold up. That said, it's hard to say how much impact McGovern really had since the defense ended up ranked poorly at the end of the season and McGovern was behind the wheel for the Sun Bowl collapse.
Once again, I think the analysis is right on in terms of short-term expectations. Chip is rolling the dice, but he must be fairly confident in his job security given the current defensive personnel and hiring an inexperienced DC. Interesting that Ken Norton wasn't in the DC picture?
I have a hunch this will indeed be Kelly's last season at Westwood. Football enthusiasm is waning to the point where when we talked about bruin athletics, it was always about how Cronin should prep his freshman players to fill the void, who would most likely replace Campbell and Jaquez in their dominant roles, who Cronin reportedly is close to signing and if Palmer would stay or take a head coach position somewhere. He is a genial guy to talk with, courteous to a fault when we called him out and told him how we remembered his playing days.
You are not stirring the pot. Kelly's tenure is rather iffy as we speak.
Yes, our collective efforts to lobby Chip's ouster did not materialize. We tried. None of us have the financial prowess the likes of Elon Musk nor Warren Buffet. I grant you that. But our donations, coupled with the message behind it, did garner the attention of the administration about our wariness, our doubts and our concerns of the future of bruin football under Chip Kelly. UCLA has spoken. The lucrative Big Ten football revenues trumps its football team's actual performance on the field, win or lose. If that is the case, so be it. At the very least, I still get to enjoy my other alma mater Wisconsin playing against UCLA. They have a new coach. I know which team I will be rooting hard for.
Hot tips ?!? Please ! I was sharing on the MB website what we heard straight from the horse's mouth when he hinted that something might happen. Naturally, we took it to be the news we wanted. You would too if you were there. At the very least, the end will still be here in 2027. Buy your lotto then.
I may be in the minority here, but I see little reason for optimism in this hire. We're talking someone who has never been DC in any capacity (started interning for his dad with the Chargers in 2017, then hopped around Jets, Texans, Ravens, was secondary coach and safety coach). Yes, he's worked with great DCs (Rex Ryan, Harbaugh) but his inexperience is a flag for me. Shouldn't we get someone who is at least familiar with college football, who has experience as DC? Why do we settle for throwing up prayers and hoping they are answered (Seriously, Dimitri, how many sentences contained "he’s going to have to figure out"?). Giving that it's the Chipster making this move, I have even more reason to doubt that it'll work out... hope he proves me wrong, but I see no reason atm to celebrate this possible hire
I left this out of the post because I couldn't find a good way to put it in, but I'm putting it down here in the comments so you can get some more commentary:
I’m trying to figure out a way to put this next part, so I apologize in advance if it comes off wrong. I’ve listened to enough of Richard Johnson of Sports Illustrated and Split Zone Duo to know that young African-American coaches do not typically get this kind of opportunity often, and when you give a young African-American coach this opportunity, potential players and their families, who are themselves predominantly African-American, will notice and look on you more favorably. This is both a good thing for recruiting and for advancing people into positions they normally do not get a chance at.
It will be a make or break season for Chip Kelly. To me, this seems like a very first step towards the ultimate fate of Kelly's tenure at UCLA . The background noise, the disenchantments regarding the football program is simmering, palpable whenever we talked in the season ticket holder sections. Yes, I was once mocked about being an alum small donor, season ticket holder as if they were anything even worth mentioning. But from what I was told, our opinion, our feedback is indeed reaching the AD's office and the administration in myriad untold channels. To a person, none considered Kelly worthwhile for retention as UCLA approaches that giant, crucial step into Big Ten territories soon.
I want Kelly to win the way he did at Oregon. I am not anti - Kelly for the sake of it. Honestly, he has not lived up to the expectations, consider the huge contract signed. Absent this new NFL hire, nothing he does has indicated that next year would not be a same old song from the past.
Other than you telling us now, I think someone briefly mentioned something about football the AD was pondering when we were in NYC for those triumphant basketball games. He said he was not sure about the exact nature of it but that something would occur.
Henry, respectfully, it's been make-or-break for the Kellster since the end of season two where he amassed - what? - seven wins?
On the other hand, the COVID-inspired athletic meals catering service he allegedly started up promised to be a lucrative sideline if he got the hook!
We trundle on..gloomily!
"December, I discussed reports that had floated around the program that McGovern would be stepping away from the team following the season due to his health issues. It wasn’t a surprising report given how the past year had gone, and with sightings of him starting to return around the program, it at least looked like he would still be around to help the team in some capacity. Then McGovern did an interview where he stated his intentions of returning next year, and he ended up coaching the bowl game."
I have come to value TMB for many reasons, chief among them that I seem to be wandering into senility and the "personal" emails I receive from you all are like BRO or other pay services except your missives seem so, so, so..intimate.
But, here I need your help as I stumble into the purple haze of my mental gloaming. Was not McGovern a wunderkind of sorts at the beginning of last season who fell into disgrace and then illness or something and blew the El Paso Pitt debacle? I kid you not! The only other McGovern I remember in my pathetic existence was the B-24 pilot from South Dakota who ran against Nixon in 1972 and lost every state (except Massachusetts, of course) and territory except for DC.
Yes, it's that serious.
Anyway, hope the earnest dreams of getting a staff in place for FB as good as Cronin's in BB.
..and, by the way, awfully nice that the former president of the American League that he could find the time to resurrect the Bruin roundball efforts. Wot?
Someone pass me a glass of warm milk and a plate of Zwiebach. And, I have to tinkle.
Hey my friend, I met McGovern in Madison when he campaigned in Madison. Teresa, his daughter later lived there too. Unfortunately, she collapsed and died on a bank of snow one frigid night in down town Madison while intoxicated.
With Kelly now, nobody had anything good to say about him. Troy Aikman attended the last home week as we did. Upon spotting him, someone did want to approach him and ask if he was wrong about the football coach whose signing Aikman engineered behind the scene. Of course we knew he was joking on such an occasion but the consensus is, every penny of that expensive contract has gone to waste.
Kelly's reputation and image befits these iconic words : - " You can fool all the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time ."
What a tragic tale for a man destined to lose the race for POTUS ignominiously. While not of his party, I sincerely respected what George McGovern did during WWII. (Did you know that both he and James Stewart were B-24 pilots?) Jimmy in the Eighth AF and George in the 15th. After the war, George flew food resupply in Italy before coming home.
How utterly noble.
But the tale of Teresa and her dying of hypothermia while drunk is quite sad. (I served four years at SAC Headquarters and lurched out of the O Club many times on a Winters night in an effort to find my room in the BOQ. More than once, a pause in the snow and near zero temperatures could have done me and my mates in had we tarried too long.) She and her parents did not deserve this fate.
One often wonders what motivated Aikman to gin up the alumni effort to land The Kellster. Love ti see a National Enquirer piece on what obvious intrigue lay behind that -- especially after Kelly blew himself up in Philly and squatted and dropped an immense steamer in San Francisco with the Niners.
Maybe we can fool him into thinking there's a glistering oppo at Alcorn AM+&M or something, Henry!
As for George and Jimmy serving together in US Air Force, this is truly way before my time.
By the way, Jimmy Stewart and Gary Cooper, especially the latter, was my dad's all time favorite movie stars. Stewart came in close second by a hair breath. My dad and the High Noon movie cassette went everywhere together, LOL !! I only liked the portion where the tall and lanky Cooper ( not handsome the way my dad said but courageous and determined ) stepped out to face his nemesis, returning to settle score with him after everyone had fled in fear, including Grace Kelly the wife. With the music " Do not forsake me " in the background, Cooper's sheer guts, steely determination and that unyielding conviction to defeat them and survive really overwhelmed me emotionally as a young kid. Listen, our UCLA BRUINS must be gutsy all the time like Cooper did !!!! LOL !!!
Henry, I share your sentiments. My dad was WWII fighter pilot/flight instructor so our sentiments leaned towards General Stewart, of course. Both actors evinced in their roles and in their private lives that steeliness you refer to. Both were magnificent to watch in their movies --along with their co-stars. Grace Kelly and Gary Cooper in the mentioned classic, High Noon, and Ms Kelly in Rear Window with Jimmy Stewart. Two very different types of movies but two movies I'd pay admission to see and hunker down in a lodge seat with an immense bucket of popcorn and a giant soda (health concerns notwithstanding), and watch with great relish.
Like the former days of UCLA football, it's a shame that movies such as these are not made anymore.
Ahhhhhh, the thrills of our our youth; the Saturday afternoons, etc.
I'll spare you my memories of Prothro and Vermeil, and -- in a grudging sense -- the late Terry Donahue, but the Bruins of yore were as watchable as the decent, exciting movies of the bygone Hollywood. (Hell, I even miss Bob Toledo!)
Grace Kelly! My heart's a flutter.
I don't think anyone really considered McGovern to be excellent at his job. The defense looked good early with the caveat of facing weak competition and it being rather new. The Washington game even today stands out a pretty significant outlier for both teams (UCLA's defense and UDub's offense) but you could maybe hold up. That said, it's hard to say how much impact McGovern really had since the defense ended up ranked poorly at the end of the season and McGovern was behind the wheel for the Sun Bowl collapse.
That's what I thought, Dimitri. Overall, it sounds like the Ravens' coach would be a welcome addition.
Once again, I think the analysis is right on in terms of short-term expectations. Chip is rolling the dice, but he must be fairly confident in his job security given the current defensive personnel and hiring an inexperienced DC. Interesting that Ken Norton wasn't in the DC picture?
Jimbo also comes from a coaching heritage.
Isn't experience a requisite?
Is Chip taking the path of least resistance?
Just stirring the pot.
I have a hunch this will indeed be Kelly's last season at Westwood. Football enthusiasm is waning to the point where when we talked about bruin athletics, it was always about how Cronin should prep his freshman players to fill the void, who would most likely replace Campbell and Jaquez in their dominant roles, who Cronin reportedly is close to signing and if Palmer would stay or take a head coach position somewhere. He is a genial guy to talk with, courteous to a fault when we called him out and told him how we remembered his playing days.
You are not stirring the pot. Kelly's tenure is rather iffy as we speak.
Chip stays. Contract extension through '27.
Please, no more of your hot tips!
I was trusting you for the Lotto numbers.
Yes, our collective efforts to lobby Chip's ouster did not materialize. We tried. None of us have the financial prowess the likes of Elon Musk nor Warren Buffet. I grant you that. But our donations, coupled with the message behind it, did garner the attention of the administration about our wariness, our doubts and our concerns of the future of bruin football under Chip Kelly. UCLA has spoken. The lucrative Big Ten football revenues trumps its football team's actual performance on the field, win or lose. If that is the case, so be it. At the very least, I still get to enjoy my other alma mater Wisconsin playing against UCLA. They have a new coach. I know which team I will be rooting hard for.
Hot tips ?!? Please ! I was sharing on the MB website what we heard straight from the horse's mouth when he hinted that something might happen. Naturally, we took it to be the news we wanted. You would too if you were there. At the very least, the end will still be here in 2027. Buy your lotto then.
I may be in the minority here, but I see little reason for optimism in this hire. We're talking someone who has never been DC in any capacity (started interning for his dad with the Chargers in 2017, then hopped around Jets, Texans, Ravens, was secondary coach and safety coach). Yes, he's worked with great DCs (Rex Ryan, Harbaugh) but his inexperience is a flag for me. Shouldn't we get someone who is at least familiar with college football, who has experience as DC? Why do we settle for throwing up prayers and hoping they are answered (Seriously, Dimitri, how many sentences contained "he’s going to have to figure out"?). Giving that it's the Chipster making this move, I have even more reason to doubt that it'll work out... hope he proves me wrong, but I see no reason atm to celebrate this possible hire
Hire is official:
https://dailybruin.com/2023/02/27/danton-lynn-announced-as-ucla-footballs-new-defensive-coordinator