The model going forward has to be recruit the trenches, a skill position here or there, a couple linebackers, and a couple secondary guys. Do not spend time recruiting QBs that you expect to do anything but be backups for a couple years. O-line and D-line probably need to grow together as groups, so target those guys out of high school. …
The model going forward has to be recruit the trenches, a skill position here or there, a couple linebackers, and a couple secondary guys. Do not spend time recruiting QBs that you expect to do anything but be backups for a couple years. O-line and D-line probably need to grow together as groups, so target those guys out of high school. QBs are plugnplay, no reason to recruit them out of HS other than depth.
That said, I like the Hasselbeck recruitment, because a three star who knows he won't start next year may stay a few years. I was happy when Moore signed last year, but it was predictable that he would start, struggle, then bolt. And honestly, bolt is probably the wrong term, because that implies that he can do something quickly, when I'm pretty sure my 82 year old mother in law could run him down.
I did not understand the disappointment when he entered the portal. Ethan Garbers, who is not special, beat him out. Shouldn't happen to the top QB recruit in the country especially at a non elite program. He reminds me of some of our freshmen basketball players. Not as billed by the so called recruiting experts.
The disappointment was not that he entered the portal, the disappointment was what he said when he entered the portal. In case you forgot (selective memory); "For these next upcoming years, I just want to go to a place where I can get developed,” Meaning of course, he wasn't being coached at UCLA, which of course we all know to be true and accurate, because the Chipster (OG) doesn't COACH anyone.
Did Dante not get the benefit of the doubt? How long did Chip need to stay with him and after how many interceptions? He simply didn't earn the starting spot, which is saying a lot because Garbers is no stud.
First, the Chipster (OG) couldn't even name a starter (if you didn't remember), then he started two of the QB's, then replaced Moore after Moore got hurt. A good head coach names his starter, then sticks with him, period. Seems as though you are attempting to re-write history just to protect that crappy head coach. Just sick and tired of you Chipster (OG) apologist. Of course, next season will change your tune when you realize this coach is pure crap.
Lol this is my first comment in years. No need to be aggressive. It was an open QB competition. Moore got moore (pun intended) than the benefit of the doubt then lost us winnable games due to his interceptions. I'm tired of people always blaming the coach. The players play. Chip didn't throw it to the other team. That being said, I don't think Kelly should be the coach whatever you assume about me.
Chipster (OG) called consecutive runs up the middle gaining ZERO yards on the opponents 1 yard line? YES. He did! In other words, the Chipster (OG) CALLED THE PLAY. This in turn set off a chain reaction telling the Quarterback to THROW THE BALL. Hence the Chipster (OG) set it all up for an interception. Have you even seen some of Moore's interceptions? They were not all just Moore throwing the ball right directly to the opponents DB's or LB's. Perhaps you should look again. Some were obvious passing downs, which increases the possibility of an interception, some had PRESSURE from the D-Line or blitzers. So yes, the coaches are also RESPONSIBLE for some of those plays. It's ALL not on the Quarterback. Does the best Quarterback in Pro Football, Patrick Mahomes throw the ball to the other team? Do they blame Mahomes, the receivers, the O-Line, the coaches? Um.. they blame them ALL. You see FOOTBALL IS A TEAM GAME. All those interceptions thrown by Moore are his fault, his O-Line's fault, the receiver's fault, the coaches fault. That's the way in works in this sport. And yes, half of those pick-6's wouldn't have happen if the guy was COACHED!!!
OK, forgive me, but I'm going to try for some nuance here... First of all, none of us know whether Dante Moore is going to be Tate Martell (5* who never made it) or Jayden Daniels (5* who looked meh, left bad coaching/bad situation, and won a Heisman) or where he'll fall on that scale... and while I have no idea what he's like as a person, the fact that he chose to transfer to a place where he knows he won't start next year but a place not satisfied with being #8 in the nation vs seemingly being satisfied with being #8 in the Pac12 doesn't exactly scream "low class thug".
Now, that said, he was clearly not ready for hardship/setbacks which is certainly on him, yes, but also on Chip since a major part of coaching is knowing what/how someone learns and what/how someone handles stress (you don't motivate Shaq the same way as Kobe or MJ, right?). There's a lot of blame to go around here - honestly, my disappointment comes from recalling Moore's best drive as a Bruin, which drew us to within 14-7 in his first true road game against the 2-time defending conference champ in a really tough environment after he put us in that hole to begin with - remember too, as bad as that/he was, we were a dropped slant to Norwood from a 14-14 tie which I think I even posted might be the most important play of the year... *That* guy on that drive looked nothing like the scared leadfoot kid he was by the end of the year and yeah, some of that is on him, but some of that is on coaching, or lack of it - finding a way to get someone with talent back to that even momentary resilience and in a positon to succeed rather than crumbling and being tossed out there anyway to fail.
Maybe he didn't respect Garbers and resented sitting behind him in a way he does respect Dillion Gabriel enough to sit, maybe he figured out he wasn't ready and he wouldn't get ready in our program, and maybe that confidence/athletic arrogance that got him to 5* status never comes back - all in all, its probably best that its over one way or the other, but its still disappointing it didn't work.
Let's just see how Dante Moore does with Oregon shall we. You can certainly criticize a raw Freshman's performance, but let's just see what he does with a different team.
He's already said he is content to sit behind Gabriel for a year and learn and develop - which is also a pointed shot at exactly what he did not get at UCLA.
Certainly the toughest position on the field to step up from high school football to Division I. I was hoping he'd redshirt in his first year. I remember a couple of the rating services only had him as a 4-star.
I doubt he would have took a chance to come to UCLA if he didn't think he had an excellent chance to start. Similar to Rosen. Otherwise, he could have gone to a much better football school.
Whatever Evan. I think it's time for your nap. Or perhaps you can get that next box of Jelly donuts for yourself and the Chipster (OG) - your idol, that and some nice milk for the both of you. Because you have both already "milked" UCLA long enough.
The model going forward has to be recruit the trenches, a skill position here or there, a couple linebackers, and a couple secondary guys. Do not spend time recruiting QBs that you expect to do anything but be backups for a couple years. O-line and D-line probably need to grow together as groups, so target those guys out of high school. QBs are plugnplay, no reason to recruit them out of HS other than depth.
That said, I like the Hasselbeck recruitment, because a three star who knows he won't start next year may stay a few years. I was happy when Moore signed last year, but it was predictable that he would start, struggle, then bolt. And honestly, bolt is probably the wrong term, because that implies that he can do something quickly, when I'm pretty sure my 82 year old mother in law could run him down.
Your 82-year old mother-in-law could also probably pick off a Dante Moore pass!
I did not understand the disappointment when he entered the portal. Ethan Garbers, who is not special, beat him out. Shouldn't happen to the top QB recruit in the country especially at a non elite program. He reminds me of some of our freshmen basketball players. Not as billed by the so called recruiting experts.
The disappointment was not that he entered the portal, the disappointment was what he said when he entered the portal. In case you forgot (selective memory); "For these next upcoming years, I just want to go to a place where I can get developed,” Meaning of course, he wasn't being coached at UCLA, which of course we all know to be true and accurate, because the Chipster (OG) doesn't COACH anyone.
Yeah, no one who Chip has coached has ever gone to the NFL. Super smart take, here.
lol. mic drop.
So, you really think the Chipster (OG) actually coached those players!! LOL. Wow.
exactly. low class thug.
More childish name calling from a child.
You might not agree with Evan, but get off your soap box. I think the principle here is to debate not call people children.
Says another child.
What a troll 😂
Says a troll. 🤣🤣
Did Dante not get the benefit of the doubt? How long did Chip need to stay with him and after how many interceptions? He simply didn't earn the starting spot, which is saying a lot because Garbers is no stud.
First, the Chipster (OG) couldn't even name a starter (if you didn't remember), then he started two of the QB's, then replaced Moore after Moore got hurt. A good head coach names his starter, then sticks with him, period. Seems as though you are attempting to re-write history just to protect that crappy head coach. Just sick and tired of you Chipster (OG) apologist. Of course, next season will change your tune when you realize this coach is pure crap.
Lol this is my first comment in years. No need to be aggressive. It was an open QB competition. Moore got moore (pun intended) than the benefit of the doubt then lost us winnable games due to his interceptions. I'm tired of people always blaming the coach. The players play. Chip didn't throw it to the other team. That being said, I don't think Kelly should be the coach whatever you assume about me.
Oh, I see. You don't blame it on the coach, but he shouldn't be the coach! LOL. What is this, kiddy land?
Chip threw the ball to the other team?
Chipster (OG) called consecutive runs up the middle gaining ZERO yards on the opponents 1 yard line? YES. He did! In other words, the Chipster (OG) CALLED THE PLAY. This in turn set off a chain reaction telling the Quarterback to THROW THE BALL. Hence the Chipster (OG) set it all up for an interception. Have you even seen some of Moore's interceptions? They were not all just Moore throwing the ball right directly to the opponents DB's or LB's. Perhaps you should look again. Some were obvious passing downs, which increases the possibility of an interception, some had PRESSURE from the D-Line or blitzers. So yes, the coaches are also RESPONSIBLE for some of those plays. It's ALL not on the Quarterback. Does the best Quarterback in Pro Football, Patrick Mahomes throw the ball to the other team? Do they blame Mahomes, the receivers, the O-Line, the coaches? Um.. they blame them ALL. You see FOOTBALL IS A TEAM GAME. All those interceptions thrown by Moore are his fault, his O-Line's fault, the receiver's fault, the coaches fault. That's the way in works in this sport. And yes, half of those pick-6's wouldn't have happen if the guy was COACHED!!!
well he's going to assume you are a "CHIP (OG?)" apologist because you aren't totally on board with what he thinks.
Yea, we all need to think the way Evan thinks and agree with everything Evan says. Yep, Kiddy land.
OK, forgive me, but I'm going to try for some nuance here... First of all, none of us know whether Dante Moore is going to be Tate Martell (5* who never made it) or Jayden Daniels (5* who looked meh, left bad coaching/bad situation, and won a Heisman) or where he'll fall on that scale... and while I have no idea what he's like as a person, the fact that he chose to transfer to a place where he knows he won't start next year but a place not satisfied with being #8 in the nation vs seemingly being satisfied with being #8 in the Pac12 doesn't exactly scream "low class thug".
Now, that said, he was clearly not ready for hardship/setbacks which is certainly on him, yes, but also on Chip since a major part of coaching is knowing what/how someone learns and what/how someone handles stress (you don't motivate Shaq the same way as Kobe or MJ, right?). There's a lot of blame to go around here - honestly, my disappointment comes from recalling Moore's best drive as a Bruin, which drew us to within 14-7 in his first true road game against the 2-time defending conference champ in a really tough environment after he put us in that hole to begin with - remember too, as bad as that/he was, we were a dropped slant to Norwood from a 14-14 tie which I think I even posted might be the most important play of the year... *That* guy on that drive looked nothing like the scared leadfoot kid he was by the end of the year and yeah, some of that is on him, but some of that is on coaching, or lack of it - finding a way to get someone with talent back to that even momentary resilience and in a positon to succeed rather than crumbling and being tossed out there anyway to fail.
Maybe he didn't respect Garbers and resented sitting behind him in a way he does respect Dillion Gabriel enough to sit, maybe he figured out he wasn't ready and he wouldn't get ready in our program, and maybe that confidence/athletic arrogance that got him to 5* status never comes back - all in all, its probably best that its over one way or the other, but its still disappointing it didn't work.
Let's just see how Dante Moore does with Oregon shall we. You can certainly criticize a raw Freshman's performance, but let's just see what he does with a different team.
you actually think he'll beat out Dillon Gabriel?
not a chance
He's already said he is content to sit behind Gabriel for a year and learn and develop - which is also a pointed shot at exactly what he did not get at UCLA.
Certainly the toughest position on the field to step up from high school football to Division I. I was hoping he'd redshirt in his first year. I remember a couple of the rating services only had him as a 4-star.
I doubt he would have took a chance to come to UCLA if he didn't think he had an excellent chance to start. Similar to Rosen. Otherwise, he could have gone to a much better football school.
Well, let's see. You have our resident football expert Evan saying no way. I'm just saying, let's see how Dante Moore plays (if he does).
if he does indeed. because Gabriel will beat him out, like i said.
Whatever Evan. I think it's time for your nap. Or perhaps you can get that next box of Jelly donuts for yourself and the Chipster (OG) - your idol, that and some nice milk for the both of you. Because you have both already "milked" UCLA long enough.
still unhinged. Such an angry fan....if you even went to UCLA.