Fire Jarmond! They will point to the shiny toy of beating SC, gloss over the season, talk about the exciting new Big 10 era to start next year and Chip won’t be fired. But, the reality will be that we won’t be able to afford to fire Chip. And, whose fault is that? Fire Jarmond! Of course, UCLA won’t do that. Because, what they all do is give each other contract extensions to ensure we are on the hook for large payouts if someone is fired. One hand washes the other. And, that’s the bureaucracy of UCLA (and most every public institution) where a bloated administration says all the right things, but really strives for mediocracy and we’re left scratching our heads wondering every year how they make such dumb decisions, while we’re really just getting fleeced. Pathetic.
Jarmond is supposedly on the list of potential candidates to fill the AD job at OSU (Gene Smith is retiring in June 2024). Jarmond had been Deputy AD at OSU prior to leaving to become a full-fledged AD at Boston College in 2017. Meanwhile, UCLA Chancellor Gene Block is leaving his post in July 2024 and a search committee is currently tasked to find a replacement. With uncertainty looming at the top, Jarmond could simply go back to OSU next year if offered the opportunity to do so. The contract buyout money to remove the head coach is a factor, but the administrative uncertainty may be the major reason why no changes to the football program will be forthcoming in the near term. The mediocrity (or worse) is expected to continue for at least another season, unfortunately.
Interesting. But I find it hard to believe OSU would hire Jarmond. OSU doesn't play around - they would have fired Chip long ago not given him an extension. Jarmond's resume took a big hit on that one.
There is a ton of pressure on Jarmond to fire Chip. Look no further than donations from big donors drying up and fans flooding X with #FireChipKelly which was trending.
Dan must have trained or put in a good word for Jarmond. Why have an AD if your most watched sports team is the laughing stock of CFB for keeping someone who has failed miserably--one that no one in the power 5 would even hire at this point.
I'd love to be able to have had to get into UCLA graduate program by being equally mediocre. Yeah, while I failed 16 of 19 undergraduate courses, especially those that require study (e.g. the Pac 12 schools finishing with a winning record), I've shown signs in the three courses I did well in to merit acceptance into the UCLA School of Medicine, etc.
What an unbelievable F U to the followers of this failed program.
Yes! Nice analogy! I wanted to highlight Jarmond, as he has to take maximum heat now, just as much as Kelly. Much like what’s happening in the rest of our world, we can call this The Great Awakening. We see the mediocrity they give us, spinning it to keep us on the hook as they all get enriched for producing nothing. Don’t accept the BS from the AD or anyone else at UCLA. We’ve had it! Keep the pressure on all of them and be relentless!
The game was a fitting end to yet another solidly-mediocre season for the "offensive genius" and an appropriate farewell to the ineptly-managed Pathetic Athletic Conference (soon to be Pac-2). Cal secured their blowout victory because they have a better coach and players who were highly motivated to stick it to UCLA and add another game to their season. For the Bruins to follow up a fairly convincing road win against U$C by coming out flat and totally flopping against Cal at home is embarassing. One could point to all of the mistakes made and current shortcomings of the players, but the primary enabler for the poor performances and utter disappointments over the past 6 seasons is Chip Alford. He's very fortunate to have D'Anton Lynn coach the Bruin defense this season., but we'll see how long he'll actually remain at UCLA.
Take away the 3 wins over cupcakes (sorry SDSU) and we are 4-8 - I would cast that as pathetic at best. We did not play Oregon or Washington so even more pathetic. When the buyout drops, there are no excuses Jarmond can hide under to retain Chip Alfraud. But even if CA is dumped, I have little confidence Jarmond will hire the right coach. We are in the proverbial abyss.
BTW, plenty of public universities fire coaches with ease. The biggest buyout being Texas A&M for $76 million. Any way you look at it, somehow Texas A&M did it and I would guess donors helped - UCLA has plenty of donors, sans Wassie, who could pony up a few mil.
Embarrassingly accurate, ma'am. Entrenched bureaucratic mediocrity. As for the buyout "bonuses', not exercising them will be MORE THAN OFFSET with plummeting attendance occasioned by attempting to present an inferior product in the SoCal sports market.
They're delusional.
(.. also noted: thank you for the very kind words, Tamara. Undeserved but greatly appreciated.)
UCLA has a top notch Mathematics program - perhaps if Guerror #2 needs help flushing out the numbers, he could lean on a Math Prof to help him through the darkness.
Should also include an IT team staffed by UCLA professors and grad students to start developing an AI program capable of selecting an ideal candidate to replace Chip Alford. LoL...
If they would have played the same type of game they played against either ASU or CAL, they probably would have lost to SDSU, so you don't have to be sorry there. I'm just sorry we all have to watch that sh** show known as UCLA football. I have found that typically after halftime when it's almost immediately apparent that the Chipster (OG) has not made any adjustments, I simply don't watch them anymore. At this point, they are unwatchable. I really don't care who their bowl opponent is or what bowl they are in. Not watching. I'm done. And yes, I will get the typical, you're not a loyal Bruin speech from others I'm sure, but I just can't see my school represented by such garbage anymore. It's too much and yea, it's embarrassing. Sorry.
Outside of the first 3 cupcake wins, the Bruins really had only 2 convincing wins this season (Stanford & U$C). Their record could easily have been much worse if they didn't have their defense. So yes, I actually gave Chip Alford way too much credit in describing this season as being mediocre. It was indeed absolutely pathetic!
Wait…wait….wait a minute. Chip Kelly just said he didn’t care what anyone said about losing to two opponents at home who were underdogs, the players with their performance for losing, quoting only the last three years of his record, win loss of 23 and 13 after being asked is the administration still supporting him. Come on, practice preparation for a game isn’t the game. This is about motivation. And your players weren’t motivated for this game and those games you lost. U$c your team was motivated, Cal, no way. It’s on the coach. Plus he has a Non winning record in his tenure. Here’s the truth Bruin fans, (UCLA)‘s football program is represented by the athletic directors desire to win. A great example of this is the potential firing of Ohio states coach, who has only one loss this season to Michigan. And because in this last three season is 1-3, not being able to beat Michigan there’s a great possibility of him being fired despite his record in 55-6 since taking over in 2019. I guess you could say there are different responsibilities & requirements being a head coach of a potential national championship team. And chip Kelly isn’t it.
At least I didn't sit through this stinkburger. Moore may still end up being the next great thing, but he's got a long way to go (and with his movement he's going to need an awesome O-Line). Anybody watch Michigan-Ohio State? Scary. The Big 10 plays DEFENSE.
Yes, it doesn’t look good for the Bruins or the Trojans. Washington and Oregon will survive. As long as Kelly is the head coach, the athletic Director should realize ticket sales will plummet. No one’s going to go watch the Bruins in the Big Ten after losing to Cal.
Thought I'd never say this and it hurts. My family has had season tickets for 58 years, Wooden Coach's Roundtable and Wasserman contributors. With a few years exception, 20+ of mediocrity, not a big interest in joining the Big 10 anyway, and today's travel time from the Westside to the Bowl for the product doesn't make it any easier (to say nothing of 7:30 games!). I think we're ready to call it a day.
Yeah, I second the emotion, Dallas! Gotta say that Joe and Dimitri and the OTMB crowd have forged an intimate band of hearty rebels here.
Never could stand them Chablis-sucking, toasted crab puff eating rich-as-Croesus alums in their deluxe, panoramic view sky boxes. Probably don't watch the football games anyhow. Just press flesh and close multi-million dollar deals while their pasty-faced kids do Tik-Tokking on their iPhones.
Just look at some of those teams, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio St, Michigan, Florida St, Oregon, Washington. What do they all have in common. Take a look. Great QB's? Hardly. They all have great offensive and defensive lines. That's the key and has always been the key at any level of this sport. Now UCLA has a great defensive line, but they can't play offense and special teams as well. I do not blame Dante Moore for any of his so called "issues", he is a raw freshman who is getting ZERO coaching and attempting to use just his talents (without the help of anyone else) and ZERO support from one of the worst O-Line's in College Football to try and win games. This is a TEAM SPORT. Look at Patrick Maholmes against the Eagles this past week. Maholmes is clearly the best QB in the NFL, but he can't block against D lineman, and he can't CATCH THE BALL FOR HIS RECEIVERS. I don't hear any criticisms of Patrick Maholmes. Does Maholmes throw picks, sure, does he throw pick-6's, yep. But I don't hear people railing against him? Wonder why? Some on here seem to think Dante Moore should be blocking for himself and catching his own passes. It's not about Dante Moore, it's about an overpaid and overweight head coach whose time had passed before UCLA even hired him. He simply needs to be removed, like you remove a cancer. If the AD Jarmond refuses or can't remove him, then Jarmond also needs to be removed. It's really pretty simple. Forget about the money, the contracts, etc. The CHIPSTER (OG) needs to go now!
I think my comment placed more weight (or blame) on Moore and it shouldn't have. Sure he's got a lot of developing to do and he's not Hundley or DTR in movement, but he is a pure passer and he'll need at least a better than average line. Chipster isn't getting these bodies by recruiting or thru the portal.
Very disappointed but not surprised at the outcome. As long as our administration doesn’t care about football, this is who we are. I got to hand it to Kelly; he’s a better negotiator than Block and Jarmond.
Oh and the cost in player quality just waiting to happen as soon as our players flood the portal gate and we know how Chip Alfraud recruits - he doesn't.
Evan, your opinion is respected but I do not agree with you. I do believe that many players will leave regardless of how they came to UCLA. I doubt many want to waste their college days playing in a dumpster fire for an ego maniac loser when they can find their way to a real coach.
It's not my opinion though. It's a fact. UCLA's transfer class was ranked #10. By all objective markers, he did an excellent job in the transfer portal. Too bad none of it translated onto the field.
And how did that work out? How much money will be lost in ticket sales and merchandise sales in a program that is generating no buzz? How will a retained Chip Kelly affect NIL fundraising which is getting more important by the day?
NIL fundraising is actually tied pretty closely to recruiting, and we all know the Chipster (OG) doesn't recruit, so I'm pretty sure, the Chipster (OG) wouldn't give a flip about NIL fundraising, which means neither does Jarmond or the University. You know I fall into this trap all the time. I can't believe that my school would mismanage and be so totally removed and disconnected from reality as to how to run a successful big-time college football program, but sadly my school is so removed and disconnected and has been for a long time. They also would care less about alienating alums, fans and yes even big donors. Yes, I was one who thought the Wasserman-Aikman deal would bear at least some fruit, it never has nor ever will. Time to move the Chipster (OG) out (it was time three years ago) and hopefully give a younger (hungrier) "less expensive" coach a shot. Pay mostly for the product you put out on the field, not just a standard run of the mill multi-million dollar guaranteed contract, which allows these coaches to get paid for garbage, like the Chipster (OG). This means give the new guy THREE YEARS to show a lot of progress, if a school like Arizona can do it, so can UCLA. As for ticket sales, marketing & merchandise, the Chipster (OG) would care less, he gets his check, Jarmond would care less, he gets his check. Screw the University, screw their reputation, screw the student body, screw the Alumni. "We are getting our money, to hell with the rest of you". This is exactly what is going on here.
Indiana just fired their head coach! So, let's see, Indiana was 3-9 this season, so the firing is more than well-deserved and justified. And UCLA has Indiana as game 2 next season at the Rose Bowl! So, let's do some analysis... 3-9 the previous season, new coach, playing The Chipster's (OG) at the Rose Bowl in their second games. Yep, this one is ripe for an Indiana win!
And Indiana is a basketball school with little tradition in football. UCLA has had great tradition in the past. Knowing Indiana is taking action while UCLA is in stalemate, makes this whole fiasco all the more intolerable.
If the guy was wearing this sweatshirt (or anything else with the words "DIARRHEA" on it), then maybe it was in support of a similar level of effort being put on display by the "offensive genius":
The absolutely crappy performance against Cal should carry forward nicely against whoever the Bruins face in their upcoming diarrhea-in-the-toilet bowl game...
I think we can all save Joe a lot of time on the "eye test" this week vs the Cal Bears... Offense: F- Not much more to say here, Defense: C+ Only due to the fact they seemed to give up after they realized the offense wasn't really playing in this game, Special Teams: F-, again not much to add here and of course Coaching: F- And again, IT'S OBVIOUS. Overall: F Only due to the fact the defense played for about one-half before realizing how futile it was to even compete, hence the overall was moved up from F- to F.
Sorry, many apologies to both you and Dimitri. Not paying attention. You know, something like how the Chipster (OG) coaches, or I should say, shows up. He really doesn't coach.
Thank goodness one of them is no longer ruining the basketball program, but the other is still an active fraud. Both have been successful in delivering mediocre and embarrassing results and happily receiving contract extensions for it during their 5+ seasons at UCLA. The remaining "Alford" must go!
Just off the wall rumors and perhaps wishful thinking. The AD and UCLA Administration, I believe, have decided to go down with the ship, following the Donut Dan model of total ineptness and mismanagement. After August, 2024, it will only take two short years (or less) before the UCLA Athletic Dept is back in the red. Jarmond will blame it on something other than his stupidity and ineptness of course and they will operate in the red for a while until they can either strike a big shoe/sports apparel merchandising deal (unlikely, who would want any?) or quietly begin the dismantling and elimination of sports programs (more than likely to occur).
I don’t know. They got that Big 10 life line. Am I wrong or isn’t their TV revenue going from $30 million a year to $80 million? If that’s the case, they can maintain our crappy football team and still make money. Rose Bowl attendance will probably improve as all those Big 10 fans will want to visit sunny California.
Hmm. Yes, they get millions, but Jarmond wastes millions, and his wastefulness isn't just on the football program. In addition, don't you think Utah, Colorado, Washington & Oregon fans would have also wanted to "visit sunny California"? How did that work out?
It seems like a lot of opposing fans are at the Rose Bowl. More than there should be. I went to an Ohio State game in Columbus about 5 years ago. It was virtually all of their own fans. I didn’t hear any cheering for the other team. I wish we had that kind of support. But I guess it does have to do with where we are. No one wants to take a trip to Columbus. Or Eugene or Oakland or Pullman for that matter. But we are sun, beaches and Disneyland. Different. Remember when Fresno State was here? More of them than us! Of course that’s driving distance.
you can't really do that. the transfer portal opens 12/4 and it really has already started. Anyone who is going to fire a coach needs to do so by today at the latest. That is why Chip negotiated 12/15. Really no difference between 12/15/23 and 3/1/24 for purposes of this exercise.
You would have thought so ONLY now ?!? Oh boy, what were you and your comrade in arms saying when I commented about our chance meeting with Jarmond and company at NYC after our game at Madison Square Garden regarding our concerns. Then I also said a group of our season ticket holders were also lobbying the UCLA administration with our collective donation to do something about Kelly before everything fell completely apart. Well, it does now. I was mocked and ridiculed. Was it a $50 check or that kind of stuffs were the response I got. Reagan once said facts and I night add, truth, are stubborn things. I guess I got the last laugh, buddy.
If not now, when? Is the following acceptable by any measure: Only 7 wins against teams finishing with winning records against 21 losses? Only 2 wins this year against teams finishing with a winning record, one being an FBS school? Only one offensive TD in three of the last four games, including against ASU and Cal team at HOME that have horrible defenses--and the Cal TD was set up by the D? Lack of even incremental progress in Dante Moore's development from a supposed QB and offensive guru? Worst red-zone production in the power 5? Lack of recruiting, glaringly the worst two kickers in the power 5? Dwindling attendance and enthusiasm? What more does one need?
If more in needed, Chip's judgment is increasingly suspect. He said we had depth at every position this year. He said that we had three or four QBs who could be starters- that in his judgment, our QB room was the most talented in the country. It was also Chip who said when he came in that he would build an offensive line---now, he's built what is one of the worst pass blocking lines in power 5 football.
Not looking for a home run hire, just marked improvement. Now that Jonathan Smith is gone, AZ head coach Jedd Fisch should be pursued. He's done an amazing job actually BUILDING a program from the ground up. Also, admire his ability to both recruit and motivate. He's not the shiny hire that we need to steer clear from, but clearly a substantial upgrade and one the Bruin family can get behind and given him the patience needed to right the ship since he's proven he can build a program. Of course, that's if Fisch would even come back after being essentially let go.
We need a fresh start. If all else fails, promoting Lynn to HC and letting him decide who he wants to hire as an OC is more palatable than sticking with someone who has failed on many levels. Failed so much that it is very unlikely he'd be picked up by another power 5 conference team or ever rehired by UCLA. Even lowly the Syracuse Orange, as bad as they've been, don't even want to go there.
Fisch is now off the board. But what is the point of firing Chip and promoting Lynn? There is no evidence that Lynn would be a better HC than Chip. We need someone with a track record.
Typically, where I come from, you fire someone for poor performance, but I guess these days that's not allowed? As for Lynn becoming the head coach, I'd think he would make a very good head coach and he'd have a longer honeymoon because expectations would definitely be lower. With the Chipster (OG), the expectations were high, almost immediately. Everyone or at least most thought we'd get a high-octane Oregon offense installed within 2-3 years and then we'd be off! But alas, not the case.
Where I come from, you fire someone to put yourself in a better position, not just for the hell of it. Better have someone who is demonstrably better than Chip lined up if you are going to let him go. And that is not Lynn. What evidence do you have that Lynn would make a good head coach? Not hope, actual evidence.
Moot point, UCLA just announced the Chipster (OG), your buddy is being retained for another season. Good Luck. As far as Lynn is concerned, my guess is that he will leave and move to greener pastures. I certainly wouldn't want to work for a head coach like that. But it's okay, Evan has all the answers, he loves his Chipster!! Yea!!
3-19 against pac 12 schools with winning records but they're keeping him rather than having to do their jobs and find someone who would at least be hired by a power 5 program.
Fire Jarmond! They will point to the shiny toy of beating SC, gloss over the season, talk about the exciting new Big 10 era to start next year and Chip won’t be fired. But, the reality will be that we won’t be able to afford to fire Chip. And, whose fault is that? Fire Jarmond! Of course, UCLA won’t do that. Because, what they all do is give each other contract extensions to ensure we are on the hook for large payouts if someone is fired. One hand washes the other. And, that’s the bureaucracy of UCLA (and most every public institution) where a bloated administration says all the right things, but really strives for mediocracy and we’re left scratching our heads wondering every year how they make such dumb decisions, while we’re really just getting fleeced. Pathetic.
Jarmond is supposedly on the list of potential candidates to fill the AD job at OSU (Gene Smith is retiring in June 2024). Jarmond had been Deputy AD at OSU prior to leaving to become a full-fledged AD at Boston College in 2017. Meanwhile, UCLA Chancellor Gene Block is leaving his post in July 2024 and a search committee is currently tasked to find a replacement. With uncertainty looming at the top, Jarmond could simply go back to OSU next year if offered the opportunity to do so. The contract buyout money to remove the head coach is a factor, but the administrative uncertainty may be the major reason why no changes to the football program will be forthcoming in the near term. The mediocrity (or worse) is expected to continue for at least another season, unfortunately.
Interesting. But I find it hard to believe OSU would hire Jarmond. OSU doesn't play around - they would have fired Chip long ago not given him an extension. Jarmond's resume took a big hit on that one.
There is a ton of pressure on Jarmond to fire Chip. Look no further than donations from big donors drying up and fans flooding X with #FireChipKelly which was trending.
Dan must have trained or put in a good word for Jarmond. Why have an AD if your most watched sports team is the laughing stock of CFB for keeping someone who has failed miserably--one that no one in the power 5 would even hire at this point.
I'd love to be able to have had to get into UCLA graduate program by being equally mediocre. Yeah, while I failed 16 of 19 undergraduate courses, especially those that require study (e.g. the Pac 12 schools finishing with a winning record), I've shown signs in the three courses I did well in to merit acceptance into the UCLA School of Medicine, etc.
What an unbelievable F U to the followers of this failed program.
Yes! Nice analogy! I wanted to highlight Jarmond, as he has to take maximum heat now, just as much as Kelly. Much like what’s happening in the rest of our world, we can call this The Great Awakening. We see the mediocrity they give us, spinning it to keep us on the hook as they all get enriched for producing nothing. Don’t accept the BS from the AD or anyone else at UCLA. We’ve had it! Keep the pressure on all of them and be relentless!
The game was a fitting end to yet another solidly-mediocre season for the "offensive genius" and an appropriate farewell to the ineptly-managed Pathetic Athletic Conference (soon to be Pac-2). Cal secured their blowout victory because they have a better coach and players who were highly motivated to stick it to UCLA and add another game to their season. For the Bruins to follow up a fairly convincing road win against U$C by coming out flat and totally flopping against Cal at home is embarassing. One could point to all of the mistakes made and current shortcomings of the players, but the primary enabler for the poor performances and utter disappointments over the past 6 seasons is Chip Alford. He's very fortunate to have D'Anton Lynn coach the Bruin defense this season., but we'll see how long he'll actually remain at UCLA.
Take away the 3 wins over cupcakes (sorry SDSU) and we are 4-8 - I would cast that as pathetic at best. We did not play Oregon or Washington so even more pathetic. When the buyout drops, there are no excuses Jarmond can hide under to retain Chip Alfraud. But even if CA is dumped, I have little confidence Jarmond will hire the right coach. We are in the proverbial abyss.
BTW, plenty of public universities fire coaches with ease. The biggest buyout being Texas A&M for $76 million. Any way you look at it, somehow Texas A&M did it and I would guess donors helped - UCLA has plenty of donors, sans Wassie, who could pony up a few mil.
Embarrassingly accurate, ma'am. Entrenched bureaucratic mediocrity. As for the buyout "bonuses', not exercising them will be MORE THAN OFFSET with plummeting attendance occasioned by attempting to present an inferior product in the SoCal sports market.
They're delusional.
(.. also noted: thank you for the very kind words, Tamara. Undeserved but greatly appreciated.)
UCLA has a top notch Mathematics program - perhaps if Guerror #2 needs help flushing out the numbers, he could lean on a Math Prof to help him through the darkness.
And... On the contrary, 💯deserved 💙💛
Should also include an IT team staffed by UCLA professors and grad students to start developing an AI program capable of selecting an ideal candidate to replace Chip Alford. LoL...
If they would have played the same type of game they played against either ASU or CAL, they probably would have lost to SDSU, so you don't have to be sorry there. I'm just sorry we all have to watch that sh** show known as UCLA football. I have found that typically after halftime when it's almost immediately apparent that the Chipster (OG) has not made any adjustments, I simply don't watch them anymore. At this point, they are unwatchable. I really don't care who their bowl opponent is or what bowl they are in. Not watching. I'm done. And yes, I will get the typical, you're not a loyal Bruin speech from others I'm sure, but I just can't see my school represented by such garbage anymore. It's too much and yea, it's embarrassing. Sorry.
Outside of the first 3 cupcake wins, the Bruins really had only 2 convincing wins this season (Stanford & U$C). Their record could easily have been much worse if they didn't have their defense. So yes, I actually gave Chip Alford way too much credit in describing this season as being mediocre. It was indeed absolutely pathetic!
💙💛 Sadly yes.
Wait…wait….wait a minute. Chip Kelly just said he didn’t care what anyone said about losing to two opponents at home who were underdogs, the players with their performance for losing, quoting only the last three years of his record, win loss of 23 and 13 after being asked is the administration still supporting him. Come on, practice preparation for a game isn’t the game. This is about motivation. And your players weren’t motivated for this game and those games you lost. U$c your team was motivated, Cal, no way. It’s on the coach. Plus he has a Non winning record in his tenure. Here’s the truth Bruin fans, (UCLA)‘s football program is represented by the athletic directors desire to win. A great example of this is the potential firing of Ohio states coach, who has only one loss this season to Michigan. And because in this last three season is 1-3, not being able to beat Michigan there’s a great possibility of him being fired despite his record in 55-6 since taking over in 2019. I guess you could say there are different responsibilities & requirements being a head coach of a potential national championship team. And chip Kelly isn’t it.
At least I didn't sit through this stinkburger. Moore may still end up being the next great thing, but he's got a long way to go (and with his movement he's going to need an awesome O-Line). Anybody watch Michigan-Ohio State? Scary. The Big 10 plays DEFENSE.
Yes, it doesn’t look good for the Bruins or the Trojans. Washington and Oregon will survive. As long as Kelly is the head coach, the athletic Director should realize ticket sales will plummet. No one’s going to go watch the Bruins in the Big Ten after losing to Cal.
Thought I'd never say this and it hurts. My family has had season tickets for 58 years, Wooden Coach's Roundtable and Wasserman contributors. With a few years exception, 20+ of mediocrity, not a big interest in joining the Big 10 anyway, and today's travel time from the Westside to the Bowl for the product doesn't make it any easier (to say nothing of 7:30 games!). I think we're ready to call it a day.
I 💯 feel your pain. But I hope you still join us in this community as I love your thoughts and you are a great Bruin! 💙💛
Yeah, I second the emotion, Dallas! Gotta say that Joe and Dimitri and the OTMB crowd have forged an intimate band of hearty rebels here.
Never could stand them Chablis-sucking, toasted crab puff eating rich-as-Croesus alums in their deluxe, panoramic view sky boxes. Probably don't watch the football games anyhow. Just press flesh and close multi-million dollar deals while their pasty-faced kids do Tik-Tokking on their iPhones.
Viva la revolución!
Just look at some of those teams, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio St, Michigan, Florida St, Oregon, Washington. What do they all have in common. Take a look. Great QB's? Hardly. They all have great offensive and defensive lines. That's the key and has always been the key at any level of this sport. Now UCLA has a great defensive line, but they can't play offense and special teams as well. I do not blame Dante Moore for any of his so called "issues", he is a raw freshman who is getting ZERO coaching and attempting to use just his talents (without the help of anyone else) and ZERO support from one of the worst O-Line's in College Football to try and win games. This is a TEAM SPORT. Look at Patrick Maholmes against the Eagles this past week. Maholmes is clearly the best QB in the NFL, but he can't block against D lineman, and he can't CATCH THE BALL FOR HIS RECEIVERS. I don't hear any criticisms of Patrick Maholmes. Does Maholmes throw picks, sure, does he throw pick-6's, yep. But I don't hear people railing against him? Wonder why? Some on here seem to think Dante Moore should be blocking for himself and catching his own passes. It's not about Dante Moore, it's about an overpaid and overweight head coach whose time had passed before UCLA even hired him. He simply needs to be removed, like you remove a cancer. If the AD Jarmond refuses or can't remove him, then Jarmond also needs to be removed. It's really pretty simple. Forget about the money, the contracts, etc. The CHIPSTER (OG) needs to go now!
I think my comment placed more weight (or blame) on Moore and it shouldn't have. Sure he's got a lot of developing to do and he's not Hundley or DTR in movement, but he is a pure passer and he'll need at least a better than average line. Chipster isn't getting these bodies by recruiting or thru the portal.
A Chipostomy? A Jarmondectomy?
Very disappointed but not surprised at the outcome. As long as our administration doesn’t care about football, this is who we are. I got to hand it to Kelly; he’s a better negotiator than Block and Jarmond.
I don't understand how this Harold Hill outsmarted the AD time and again.
Instead of people asking how much it will cost to fire Chip Kelly, they should ask how much it will cost to keep him?
$0. he's already under contract.
Millions lost in ticket revenue is a HUGE cost. Plus the cost of more tarps.
Oh and the cost in player quality just waiting to happen as soon as our players flood the portal gate and we know how Chip Alfraud recruits - he doesn't.
you'll have to try again. Chip had a top 10 transfer class in 2023.
Evan, your opinion is respected but I do not agree with you. I do believe that many players will leave regardless of how they came to UCLA. I doubt many want to waste their college days playing in a dumpster fire for an ego maniac loser when they can find their way to a real coach.
It's not my opinion though. It's a fact. UCLA's transfer class was ranked #10. By all objective markers, he did an excellent job in the transfer portal. Too bad none of it translated onto the field.
And how did that work out? How much money will be lost in ticket sales and merchandise sales in a program that is generating no buzz? How will a retained Chip Kelly affect NIL fundraising which is getting more important by the day?
NIL fundraising is actually tied pretty closely to recruiting, and we all know the Chipster (OG) doesn't recruit, so I'm pretty sure, the Chipster (OG) wouldn't give a flip about NIL fundraising, which means neither does Jarmond or the University. You know I fall into this trap all the time. I can't believe that my school would mismanage and be so totally removed and disconnected from reality as to how to run a successful big-time college football program, but sadly my school is so removed and disconnected and has been for a long time. They also would care less about alienating alums, fans and yes even big donors. Yes, I was one who thought the Wasserman-Aikman deal would bear at least some fruit, it never has nor ever will. Time to move the Chipster (OG) out (it was time three years ago) and hopefully give a younger (hungrier) "less expensive" coach a shot. Pay mostly for the product you put out on the field, not just a standard run of the mill multi-million dollar guaranteed contract, which allows these coaches to get paid for garbage, like the Chipster (OG). This means give the new guy THREE YEARS to show a lot of progress, if a school like Arizona can do it, so can UCLA. As for ticket sales, marketing & merchandise, the Chipster (OG) would care less, he gets his check, Jarmond would care less, he gets his check. Screw the University, screw their reputation, screw the student body, screw the Alumni. "We are getting our money, to hell with the rest of you". This is exactly what is going on here.
Cannot fire Chip. He has tenure.
Ask Evan, our resident Chipster (OG) apologist. Oh, I see our resident apologist has already replied. LOL
huh
Bravo .... bravo ..... Let's give you a standing ovation.
Jarmond and Kelly should be a packaged dismissal, period!
Indiana just fired their head coach! So, let's see, Indiana was 3-9 this season, so the firing is more than well-deserved and justified. And UCLA has Indiana as game 2 next season at the Rose Bowl! So, let's do some analysis... 3-9 the previous season, new coach, playing The Chipster's (OG) at the Rose Bowl in their second games. Yep, this one is ripe for an Indiana win!
And Indiana is a basketball school with little tradition in football. UCLA has had great tradition in the past. Knowing Indiana is taking action while UCLA is in stalemate, makes this whole fiasco all the more intolerable.
"Something has to change, but it probably won’t."
Sad - pitiful, really - but pathetically likely to be true.
What about the guy wearing the Diarrhea sweatshirt on the sidelines?
I must have missed seeing that--were you referring to this shirt? (it stinks like diarrhea):
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no there was literally a guy wearing a black sweatshirt that said DIARRHEA in big bold white letters on the sidelines for most of the game.
If the guy was wearing this sweatshirt (or anything else with the words "DIARRHEA" on it), then maybe it was in support of a similar level of effort being put on display by the "offensive genius":
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The absolutely crappy performance against Cal should carry forward nicely against whoever the Bruins face in their upcoming diarrhea-in-the-toilet bowl game...
Chip Kelly absolutely sucks!
Apparently, he stinks too (see posting above)...
I think we can all save Joe a lot of time on the "eye test" this week vs the Cal Bears... Offense: F- Not much more to say here, Defense: C+ Only due to the fact they seemed to give up after they realized the offense wasn't really playing in this game, Special Teams: F-, again not much to add here and of course Coaching: F- And again, IT'S OBVIOUS. Overall: F Only due to the fact the defense played for about one-half before realizing how futile it was to even compete, hence the overall was moved up from F- to F.
I agree. Defense seemed to lose motivation watching the offense and special teams flounder miserably.
I appreciate your concern for my time, but it's Dimitri who writes the Eye Test each week, and he does a fabulous job with it!
Sorry, many apologies to both you and Dimitri. Not paying attention. You know, something like how the Chipster (OG) coaches, or I should say, shows up. He really doesn't coach.
LATE TO THE DANCE..
..I finally figured out who the hell "Chip Alford" is.
LOL!
Thank goodness one of them is no longer ruining the basketball program, but the other is still an active fraud. Both have been successful in delivering mediocre and embarrassing results and happily receiving contract extensions for it during their 5+ seasons at UCLA. The remaining "Alford" must go!
WORD!
I guess maybe the L.A. Bowl?
I would have thought Chip would be fired by now. I wonder if there is any smoke to the Jon Gruden or Brandon Staley rumors. Please no Staley.
Just off the wall rumors and perhaps wishful thinking. The AD and UCLA Administration, I believe, have decided to go down with the ship, following the Donut Dan model of total ineptness and mismanagement. After August, 2024, it will only take two short years (or less) before the UCLA Athletic Dept is back in the red. Jarmond will blame it on something other than his stupidity and ineptness of course and they will operate in the red for a while until they can either strike a big shoe/sports apparel merchandising deal (unlikely, who would want any?) or quietly begin the dismantling and elimination of sports programs (more than likely to occur).
I don’t know. They got that Big 10 life line. Am I wrong or isn’t their TV revenue going from $30 million a year to $80 million? If that’s the case, they can maintain our crappy football team and still make money. Rose Bowl attendance will probably improve as all those Big 10 fans will want to visit sunny California.
Hmm. Yes, they get millions, but Jarmond wastes millions, and his wastefulness isn't just on the football program. In addition, don't you think Utah, Colorado, Washington & Oregon fans would have also wanted to "visit sunny California"? How did that work out?
It seems like a lot of opposing fans are at the Rose Bowl. More than there should be. I went to an Ohio State game in Columbus about 5 years ago. It was virtually all of their own fans. I didn’t hear any cheering for the other team. I wish we had that kind of support. But I guess it does have to do with where we are. No one wants to take a trip to Columbus. Or Eugene or Oakland or Pullman for that matter. But we are sun, beaches and Disneyland. Different. Remember when Fresno State was here? More of them than us! Of course that’s driving distance.
I’ll add we WOULD have better support if we played better!!!
Before Lincoln Riley SUC’s fans stopped showing up.
key phrase is "going to be." We are still poor.
Do you think AD is waiting for Dec 15 because the buyout is cheaper? Or is that wishful thinking?
you can't really do that. the transfer portal opens 12/4 and it really has already started. Anyone who is going to fire a coach needs to do so by today at the latest. That is why Chip negotiated 12/15. Really no difference between 12/15/23 and 3/1/24 for purposes of this exercise.
Gotcha. Thanks.
"the transfer portal opens 12/4 and it really has already started" Sure is! UCLA just lost two receivers today. Many more to follow.
Until August, 2024.
exactly. Meaning we do not have the money right now to hire an elite coach. We'd be hiring another unknown and unnecessarily rolling the dice
Don't be fooled. They have the money. It's not money, its competence. That's what the UCLA AD, The Administration and the Chipster (OG) don't have.
You would have thought so ONLY now ?!? Oh boy, what were you and your comrade in arms saying when I commented about our chance meeting with Jarmond and company at NYC after our game at Madison Square Garden regarding our concerns. Then I also said a group of our season ticket holders were also lobbying the UCLA administration with our collective donation to do something about Kelly before everything fell completely apart. Well, it does now. I was mocked and ridiculed. Was it a $50 check or that kind of stuffs were the response I got. Reagan once said facts and I night add, truth, are stubborn things. I guess I got the last laugh, buddy.
If not now, when? Is the following acceptable by any measure: Only 7 wins against teams finishing with winning records against 21 losses? Only 2 wins this year against teams finishing with a winning record, one being an FBS school? Only one offensive TD in three of the last four games, including against ASU and Cal team at HOME that have horrible defenses--and the Cal TD was set up by the D? Lack of even incremental progress in Dante Moore's development from a supposed QB and offensive guru? Worst red-zone production in the power 5? Lack of recruiting, glaringly the worst two kickers in the power 5? Dwindling attendance and enthusiasm? What more does one need?
If more in needed, Chip's judgment is increasingly suspect. He said we had depth at every position this year. He said that we had three or four QBs who could be starters- that in his judgment, our QB room was the most talented in the country. It was also Chip who said when he came in that he would build an offensive line---now, he's built what is one of the worst pass blocking lines in power 5 football.
Not looking for a home run hire, just marked improvement. Now that Jonathan Smith is gone, AZ head coach Jedd Fisch should be pursued. He's done an amazing job actually BUILDING a program from the ground up. Also, admire his ability to both recruit and motivate. He's not the shiny hire that we need to steer clear from, but clearly a substantial upgrade and one the Bruin family can get behind and given him the patience needed to right the ship since he's proven he can build a program. Of course, that's if Fisch would even come back after being essentially let go.
We need a fresh start. If all else fails, promoting Lynn to HC and letting him decide who he wants to hire as an OC is more palatable than sticking with someone who has failed on many levels. Failed so much that it is very unlikely he'd be picked up by another power 5 conference team or ever rehired by UCLA. Even lowly the Syracuse Orange, as bad as they've been, don't even want to go there.
Fisch is now off the board. But what is the point of firing Chip and promoting Lynn? There is no evidence that Lynn would be a better HC than Chip. We need someone with a track record.
Typically, where I come from, you fire someone for poor performance, but I guess these days that's not allowed? As for Lynn becoming the head coach, I'd think he would make a very good head coach and he'd have a longer honeymoon because expectations would definitely be lower. With the Chipster (OG), the expectations were high, almost immediately. Everyone or at least most thought we'd get a high-octane Oregon offense installed within 2-3 years and then we'd be off! But alas, not the case.
Where I come from, you fire someone to put yourself in a better position, not just for the hell of it. Better have someone who is demonstrably better than Chip lined up if you are going to let him go. And that is not Lynn. What evidence do you have that Lynn would make a good head coach? Not hope, actual evidence.
Moot point, UCLA just announced the Chipster (OG), your buddy is being retained for another season. Good Luck. As far as Lynn is concerned, my guess is that he will leave and move to greener pastures. I certainly wouldn't want to work for a head coach like that. But it's okay, Evan has all the answers, he loves his Chipster!! Yea!!
my buddy? have posted many times that he is a terrible coach.
Sounds like you love em! Don't fire Chip means you are all in!
Don't waste time, please. The 2024 season will be here and gone too. Just one more year of suffering, guys.
3-19 against pac 12 schools with winning records but they're keeping him rather than having to do their jobs and find someone who would at least be hired by a power 5 program.