There are plenty of athletes that UCLA can’t admit that can be admitted elsewhere. Nobody is claiming that they possess the same academic qualifications as those admitted academically.
There are plenty of athletes that UCLA can’t admit that can be admitted elsewhere. Nobody is claiming that they possess the same academic qualifications as those admitted academically.
yeah that is kind of my point. but do you have any idea the gap? When I went to UCLA you basically had to get a 1400 on the SAT to have a prayer at admission, but 1000 was required for athletes. Still more than a of other schools, but i mean com on. Even at Stanford you could get in with an 1100 before they moved to the different scale.
With all due respect you clearly haven't spent a lot of time around or with students from failing and/or underfunded high schools... For many of them an "extra 200 points on the SAT" might as well be 2000. Combine that with entrance requirements at place like ASU and some southern schools where it "just means more" that amount to "run fast and fog a mirror" and yeah, it's a factor. That said, Shaw would have been a great hire in 2014 but not in 2024 due to the reasons of the new reality that you and I agree about Even - unless it's a "do us a solid and coach your kid for a year" 🤝 deal and even then id rather go a different direction than that
There are plenty of athletes that UCLA can’t admit that can be admitted elsewhere. Nobody is claiming that they possess the same academic qualifications as those admitted academically.
yeah that is kind of my point. but do you have any idea the gap? When I went to UCLA you basically had to get a 1400 on the SAT to have a prayer at admission, but 1000 was required for athletes. Still more than a of other schools, but i mean com on. Even at Stanford you could get in with an 1100 before they moved to the different scale.
And do you understand the gap of our requirements vs. the bare minimum (which is then cheated to meet) of most of the elite programs?
Yep. And it's tiny. Another 100 or 200 points on the SAT....please.
Add cheating onto that and you’re at the same 400 point gap - or more - that you’re complaining about.
Ever hear of Vontaze Burfict? Even SC wouldn’t admit him. He ended up at ASU. There’s definitely a difference.
With all due respect you clearly haven't spent a lot of time around or with students from failing and/or underfunded high schools... For many of them an "extra 200 points on the SAT" might as well be 2000. Combine that with entrance requirements at place like ASU and some southern schools where it "just means more" that amount to "run fast and fog a mirror" and yeah, it's a factor. That said, Shaw would have been a great hire in 2014 but not in 2024 due to the reasons of the new reality that you and I agree about Even - unless it's a "do us a solid and coach your kid for a year" 🤝 deal and even then id rather go a different direction than that