Thanks for the reply… I know how I can get under your skin sometimes, but your points are well taken. I do still think a center capable of keeping the opposing defense is an area cronin has lacked at ucla. If your center has a lot of tools, then the opposing defense has to make adjustments that lead to you 3 pt shooters being more wide o…
Thanks for the reply… I know how I can get under your skin sometimes, but your points are well taken. I do still think a center capable of keeping the opposing defense is an area cronin has lacked at ucla. If your center has a lot of tools, then the opposing defense has to make adjustments that lead to you 3 pt shooters being more wide open, especially when you don’t have 3 or shooters that can create their own shot. Example of teams that have demonstrated 3 or shooters off the dribble include the Baylor and Arizona type teams for example… that’s another story though. I think it’s much easier to defend a team like ucla when you don’t have to worry about the center making any good post moves vs a center like drew timme (I just threw up writing that) who really opened up Gonzaga’s offense at the college level and allowed the rest of his teammates to thrive. It’s an offensive weapon that cronin has never had as he either can’t develop that ability, chooses not to, or doesn’t recruit the right player to fit that offensive hole that ucla has had during his tenure at ucla
Timme wasn't a center, though; he was a skilled wing who could moonlight as a center in small lineups. If anything, UCLA has had a Timme-like player under Cronin in Jaquez, one who can operate in the low post and score while drawing defensive attention that can open up other players. I think focusing on center in particular is missing the forest for the trees in this regard.
I’m sorry, but I don’t remember timme playing “wing” in college. I only remember him playing as their center. Comparing timme to jaquez also isn’t fair. Timme was much heavier than jaquez and did not usually cover jaquez in any of the games they played… I could obviously be wrong, but timme played as Gonzaga’s center
I had to go double check to make sure that I wasn’t going crazy. Calling timme a “skilled wing” really makes you look bad. Sure that’s what it says on his player profile, but timme played the 5 at Gonzaga and acted as their center. He defended other centers, posted like a center, and didn’t take jump shots like a forward.
Comparing timme to jaquez is also got to be one of the worst comparisons I’ve seen from you my friend. Anybody else that supports you is also grabbing at straws. Tim shot about 1 3 pt per game and made almost none of them. He also wasn’t a jump shooter. He worked the post like all the other college centers. Timme’s skillset was NOTHING like jaquez. It’s why jaquez is doing well as a forward in the nba and timme… does he even play in the nba? No because he was a college center that’s not big enough to be a center in the nba and an nba built forward that can’t actually play like a forward the way jaquez does
I also went and looked at some numbers for the 22-23 year for those two players. Skilled wings are taking a good clip of 3 pt’s on average and making a good number of them. Jaquez shot 33-104 from three that year, a year that he played as a junior I believe? Maybe a super junior? Timme shot 4-24 from 3 pt range as a senior? Timme was not a “skilled wing” in college. He played the 5 and anybody that watched Gonzaga at all during timme’s lengthy career at Gonzaga would say the same thing. Timme and jaquez were very different college players with different skill sets. As a self proclaimed basketball expert even you know this to be true
Thanks for the reply… I know how I can get under your skin sometimes, but your points are well taken. I do still think a center capable of keeping the opposing defense is an area cronin has lacked at ucla. If your center has a lot of tools, then the opposing defense has to make adjustments that lead to you 3 pt shooters being more wide open, especially when you don’t have 3 or shooters that can create their own shot. Example of teams that have demonstrated 3 or shooters off the dribble include the Baylor and Arizona type teams for example… that’s another story though. I think it’s much easier to defend a team like ucla when you don’t have to worry about the center making any good post moves vs a center like drew timme (I just threw up writing that) who really opened up Gonzaga’s offense at the college level and allowed the rest of his teammates to thrive. It’s an offensive weapon that cronin has never had as he either can’t develop that ability, chooses not to, or doesn’t recruit the right player to fit that offensive hole that ucla has had during his tenure at ucla
Timme wasn't a center, though; he was a skilled wing who could moonlight as a center in small lineups. If anything, UCLA has had a Timme-like player under Cronin in Jaquez, one who can operate in the low post and score while drawing defensive attention that can open up other players. I think focusing on center in particular is missing the forest for the trees in this regard.
I’m sorry, but I don’t remember timme playing “wing” in college. I only remember him playing as their center. Comparing timme to jaquez also isn’t fair. Timme was much heavier than jaquez and did not usually cover jaquez in any of the games they played… I could obviously be wrong, but timme played as Gonzaga’s center
I had to go double check to make sure that I wasn’t going crazy. Calling timme a “skilled wing” really makes you look bad. Sure that’s what it says on his player profile, but timme played the 5 at Gonzaga and acted as their center. He defended other centers, posted like a center, and didn’t take jump shots like a forward.
Comparing timme to jaquez is also got to be one of the worst comparisons I’ve seen from you my friend. Anybody else that supports you is also grabbing at straws. Tim shot about 1 3 pt per game and made almost none of them. He also wasn’t a jump shooter. He worked the post like all the other college centers. Timme’s skillset was NOTHING like jaquez. It’s why jaquez is doing well as a forward in the nba and timme… does he even play in the nba? No because he was a college center that’s not big enough to be a center in the nba and an nba built forward that can’t actually play like a forward the way jaquez does
I also went and looked at some numbers for the 22-23 year for those two players. Skilled wings are taking a good clip of 3 pt’s on average and making a good number of them. Jaquez shot 33-104 from three that year, a year that he played as a junior I believe? Maybe a super junior? Timme shot 4-24 from 3 pt range as a senior? Timme was not a “skilled wing” in college. He played the 5 and anybody that watched Gonzaga at all during timme’s lengthy career at Gonzaga would say the same thing. Timme and jaquez were very different college players with different skill sets. As a self proclaimed basketball expert even you know this to be true