Good job Dmitri. However I’d say Boise State is a bigger success story than App State. Boise St football would be competitive year in and year out in the Pac12.
Boise State has been successful for a long time now, to the point where I'd say they've plateau'd. App State is a more recent story, and came from more humble origins to do so, but I can see the argument either way.
Also interesting that the two other major mid-major programs that were around during Boise State's rise (TCU and Utah) went and joined P5 conferences in order to find greater success.
TCU is a different case, they were once members of the SWC with Texas, aTm, Baylor, Texas Tech, Arkansas, etc before being left out in the cold when those 5 bailed to the Big 12/SEC and the "Sure We'll Cheat" disbanded. Not to mention, Davy O'Brien and Sammy Baugh back in the day... they were never D2, 1AA, or FCS like Bosie and AppSt
Oh yeah, I'm not arguing TCU would be the biggest success story, but rather found it interesting that the two other big mid majors from that original time period moved on while Boise State never got the chance to.
Pac-12 isn't acting like the wildfires are the only thing preventing play right now, but they have had to cancel games in the past due to unsafe conditions, and if they were playing right now, you would bet any games in the Bay Area and Washington would be getting cancelled.
No they would not. If you can play MLB and NFL games, you can play football. The Pac 12 is trying to use the fires as a compounding factor that overshadows the Covid screw up. Two maybe problems = 1 definite problem. No. If there were no covid, there would be football.
We are the laughing stock of the entire nation. Literally everyone is playing football except for the Big Ten and Pac 12, and the Big Ten is about to get started. There's absolutely no excuse for this. The rest of the country has been playing for weeks. Many high schools have been playing for MONTHS. The Pac 12 looks like fools. This has set the conference back 10 years. Even the talk radio hosts who were playing it safe with the safety first oh we have to put the student athletes health above all else crowd are now saying uhhhhhh ok this looks really bad. The Pac 12 has always been the laughing stock of the nation, but now it's front and center.
Two weekends, two Campbell games...who knew ? Sports in 2020......
Oddly enough, tonight’s game was pretty entertaining. I think that Borrow kid’s got an NFL future, at least he showed he can take a hit...
Good job Dmitri. However I’d say Boise State is a bigger success story than App State. Boise St football would be competitive year in and year out in the Pac12.
so would App State lol.....and dozens of other schools in mid-major conferences. Sad!
Boise State has been successful for a long time now, to the point where I'd say they've plateau'd. App State is a more recent story, and came from more humble origins to do so, but I can see the argument either way.
Also interesting that the two other major mid-major programs that were around during Boise State's rise (TCU and Utah) went and joined P5 conferences in order to find greater success.
TCU is a different case, they were once members of the SWC with Texas, aTm, Baylor, Texas Tech, Arkansas, etc before being left out in the cold when those 5 bailed to the Big 12/SEC and the "Sure We'll Cheat" disbanded. Not to mention, Davy O'Brien and Sammy Baugh back in the day... they were never D2, 1AA, or FCS like Bosie and AppSt
Oh yeah, I'm not arguing TCU would be the biggest success story, but rather found it interesting that the two other big mid majors from that original time period moved on while Boise State never got the chance to.
Hearted for "Sure We'll Cheat"
Gotta love how the Pac 12 is acting like this is the first time there have ever been fires during football season.
Pac-12 isn't acting like the wildfires are the only thing preventing play right now, but they have had to cancel games in the past due to unsafe conditions, and if they were playing right now, you would bet any games in the Bay Area and Washington would be getting cancelled.
No they would not. If you can play MLB and NFL games, you can play football. The Pac 12 is trying to use the fires as a compounding factor that overshadows the Covid screw up. Two maybe problems = 1 definite problem. No. If there were no covid, there would be football.
Pac 12 looking really foolish right now.
Not....really?
We are the laughing stock of the entire nation. Literally everyone is playing football except for the Big Ten and Pac 12, and the Big Ten is about to get started. There's absolutely no excuse for this. The rest of the country has been playing for weeks. Many high schools have been playing for MONTHS. The Pac 12 looks like fools. This has set the conference back 10 years. Even the talk radio hosts who were playing it safe with the safety first oh we have to put the student athletes health above all else crowd are now saying uhhhhhh ok this looks really bad. The Pac 12 has always been the laughing stock of the nation, but now it's front and center.
maybe the Pac really is more soft feeble, so this is actually the smart move