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How come Harry Connick Jr. gets to have all those background singers and instrumentalists in his basement?

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Burrows to Bengal at #1, Chase Young to Skins at #2, Lions on the clock

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Well, it looks like Josh Rosen may be on the move again after the Dolphins have drafted Tua Tagovailoa unless the Dolphins opt to keep him for some reason but, by choosing to draft Tagavailoa, it sends a message that Rosen is not their future QB.

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Dolphins are incredibly stupid. If they trade Rosen to say New England, they've lost a fan in me

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I’d like to see Josh with the Pats. He needs a stable organization.

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I agree. Dolphins were too stupid to realize what they had and provide him support. Instead Josh ended up on the team with the worst OL 2 years in a row.

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I thought Josh had it bad behind the Bruins offensive line. It's hard to believe he has had one for sure (the Cardinals) and maybe two successive downgrades since. Some guys just never get the right opportunity. I hope he finally finds his somewhere soon. The NFL has a short memory, and the ultra high prospects at the start of his senior year are fading fast.

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I want to believe in Josh still, and I think that in the right system he could be passable, but at this point I'm kinda out on him. I don't think anyone has had an agenda against him I just think he's consistently underwhelmed everyone. I mean, Kyler took a pretty similar Cardinals offensive line and was massively better so it's not like anyone was going to be bad there.

As a Chargers fan I am still reeling from a miserable first round, and I've found myself on some Oregon sites where they're justifying Justin Herbert's struggles by saying he had 3 OC's in 4 years (or maybe it was 4 in 3 - can't remember specifics) and that sounded very familiar to me. While I believe that can be a hindrance, at a certain point the good quarterbacks figure out a way to be good.

I have a friend who was an offensive lineman for Bosco when Rosen was there and he said a bunch of good things about the guy, but when I asked if he was surprised that Rosen underwhelmed he said, right away, "No - he needs an absolutely perfect system to survive" and I think that's true. If you put him on the Eagles or Saints with creative offensive head coaches, elite offensive lines, and good skill position players, I think he could be fine - maybe like Nick Foles level solid. But at this point I don't see his upside as any higher than that and even if he goes to an average situation like the Chargers (not saying it's a fit anymore, just a team I know well) I still think he'd be pretty rough. And that's a bummer because I was cheering for Josh but after a certain point the benefit of the doubt runs out.

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I don't think so. Kyler's offensive line was vastly different than Rosen's. They actually upgraded in RT (Marcus Gilbert from a stellar Steelers line), Pugh was finally healthy, and had a major change in offensive philosophy (deep pass to quick-strike). Still bad but not as bad as it was for Rosen when they had practice squad guys, UDFA's, and other teams practice squad guys thrown in with no chemistry (much like how the Dolphins line was until Week 10 of the season).

Every QB needs at least a decent supporting system, especially when they're developing. Peyton Manning was ass his first year but got better as they got different QB coaches. Tom Brady has had geniuses like Weis, McDaniels, etc. Drew Brees was so terrible, they drafted Rivers later. Mahomes has a bonafide QB guru in Reid.

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Considering Marcus Gilbert got injured before playing a single snap for the Cardinals last year, I am calling your knowledge on their offensive lines into question. They improved from the worst offensive line but they were still bottom third of the league for sure.

Good quarterbacks need support systems to be great but they also elevate bad support systems too. I hope Rosen gets another shot but I don't have a whole lot of confidence in him being anything more than a career backup and spot starter.

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I stopped watching the cardinals so you may be right. But you can take your personal shit elsewhere.

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PFF's worst pass blocking offensive line 2 years in a row. That's just terrible luck. Also with some bad offensive coordinators. He had McCoy/Leftwich who insisted on deep ball passing attacks despite not having the OL to do that. Then he ended up in Miami where they also fired their OC and their leading rusher was Fitzpatrick who had to run for his life every series. I want him to succeed even if it's with....the Patriots.

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