Even Va Tech has a huge upside over UCLA as Chesney could stay in Va. But Penn State will take him home. I can't see him passing up the opp to return to his roots, to a program rich in history, funding and loyal fans.
And... Why would he ever move across the country to spend one second with the biggest donut head and donut holes in the universe? He wouldn't.
Time spent courting Chesney is time lost pursuing a more likely candidate.
Pessimistically, Chesney could be playing UCLA for a better contract with Penn St or whomever (although I imagine those programs will open their purses at the outset), as did Chipster and Coach Cal.
As has been stated, Chesney's sanity need be questioned if he accepted a UCLA position.
Indeed, the best HC candidates out there could just use the offers from UCLA to land better jobs elsewhere, or secure contract extensions at their current jobs. Hearing someone actually wanting the UCLA HC job as their primary destination and considering it in high regard will sound pretty funny, but money talks. In any case, AD Martin Guerrero would be just fine with scraping the bottom of the HC candidate list and hire anyone who can guarantee 6-8 wins max every season, no experience necessary.
If Penn State ends up with Chesney as their head coach their fans will riot. They are looking at poaching a sitting P4 head coach, as is Florida. If VT hires Franklin as is rumored, there’s a very good chance Chesney is our next coach.
I absolutely want an up and coming coach. I don't want a retread or even a coach like Fisch.
Now that an up and coming coach like Cignetti has proven what they can do at the Power 4 level, it becomes increasingly difficult to get that type of coach because the demand is now higher.
And UCLA is perceived as an undesirable job, that's just the reality. Despite our academic prestige, gorgeous campus, etc, it's a hard sell with the scumbag lying narcissists running Morgan.
The way UCLA Football has spiraled with Donut Head Jelly 2.0 and his Donut Holes, puts us in a Hole below the competition.
With that said, if we want a coach like Chesney and he wants to be at UCLA if all the jelly donuts are cleaned out, and that's the condition, then Blockhead 2.0 needs to do just that.
Will Blockhead 2.0 take action? I hope so, but so far he has proven to be a feckless wonder, add in the whole SoFi mess, and he appears to be as bad as Donut Head.
Does Penn State have a competent AD who is not a self-serving, self-important bozo? That could be a major determining factor in him going there instead of UCLA.
I'm sure they have a lot more resources than we do, especially for football, but like Dimitri says , do they want a young coach, or will they shoot for a big name?
Penn State isn’t even sniffing around Chesney. They’re going big game hunting, which is what you would expect as soon as they fired Franklin - the Elko extension was in direct response to Penn State putting an offer on the table.
Sounds like a fine football coach…but there’s so much more to being a Power 4 college football coach than coaching football. Should a Chesney hire truly come to pass, he must have an honest commitment from the UCLA administration regarding how much money they are willing to invest; not just in NIL revenue, but in assistant coaching salaries and most importantly, a hard-driving football GM and staff to help tie it all together. Otherwise…we could well be saying one day “he seemed like a good coach…too bad he didn’t have any players….”.
Bolch's Unlocked newsletter centered on Chesney, included this quote...
Transparency and communication are two very important things that every program needs to have,” Chesney said that day, providing a mantra that all organizations should embrace.
I am beyond that we are still stuck with the very worst 'lack of transparency and communication' Donut Head and Holes on the planet.
Chesney will see right through these BIG time clowns, and unless he falls in love with UCLA's academic prowess and campus beauty, and demands that Morgan be restored, I believe our path to Bob may be 'block'ed by none other than Blockhead 2.0.
I was listening to Split Zone Duo last week, and I thought they had a really good read on something that's been sitting in the back of my head for a while now.
I don't think fans are the best at determining the desirability or state of their program because they are too invested in every little thing. For us, we see UCLA as having major issues regarding the athletic department and its leadership, but that's not the perception at the national level. The SZD guys (who are national reporters at CBS and the Athletic) were talking about UCLA in regards to the Rose Bowl and the current job, and their opinion was very different than one you'd typically see here.
It has made me reexamine my biases a bit, and while I don't think I am wrong to call for change in the athletic department, that also doesn't mean that the AD is so bad that coaches will give it a wide berth. If anything, the appearance is that this is a desirable job for a number of up-and-coming coaches, and so the job of the committee is figuring out which one has the best chance of success. The fact that Chesney appears to be the choice is a great first step in that regard.
I truly appreciate this perspective, and I hope with all of my heart, that we are able to bring Chesney to UCLA, or another up and coming coach with equal credentials. 💙💛
I've seen similar in some articles I've read over the last couple months regarding the search. Yes, the top 5-10% of Head Coaches won't be coming here, but any up and coming coach and a vast majority of coordinators absolutely would.
Don't underestimate the desire to be "the guy" at a P4 program, and also the ego to say they were the one to "turn it around". At worse they would see us as a stepping stone to a bigger P4 program, but even if that happens it means they have turned it around, making us a more desirable destination for the next coach.
To be fair to the commentators here, ESPN has the same perspective that we do. We are ranked last in their list of HC openings (even behind Stanford 😂). But I agree overall to Dmitri's point, others do not "hate" our admin as much as we do
On the flip side, the Athletic has UCLA ranked 6th behind Penn State and the SEC jobs, which feels closer to reality than whatever Rittenberg is smoking with this list.
I agree and don’t agree at the same time. I think our AD isn’t so far off from other departments across the country attempting to navigate a quickly changing landscape and struggling to figure out how they’re going to finance ever increasing costs.
I do think most of those schools however are in the B12 and ACC, and I do think that the department has serious problems from scandal (Rebholz, Varsity Blues) to incompetence (donor outreach) to downright horrible leadership (Jarmond, and the university’s/Hunt’s cronyism with his extension) that do need to be addressed. Fisch, specifically, has concerns about going to UCLA because of Jarmond and the lack of NIL (which is also a Jarmond problem).
Despite playing second fiddle to USC and not having its own stadium, there is no reason a football program in Los Angeles with the recruiting pool SoCal has and the history it has before the turn of the century should be this bad. That’s as much a direct indictment on the Morgan Center and Murphy Hall as it is a honest view of the potential UCLA has, which I’m sure the view from coaches and agents is that if they turned it around they would be future legends.
Yes, the school should be focused on academics first. But instead of having complete antipathy towards football, maybe the administration and the faculty would be better served being aligned on the school’s top revenue generating sport for a change.
Rick Neuheisel. Litigator extraordinaire. Not a great track record for coaching UCLA 21-28. At least he didn’t sue UCLA. Loser.
Not sure what your point is...
What does Rick's track record have anything to do with his opinion about Chesney?
I don't believe Chesney will come to UCLA, he will likely go home to Penn St.
Please reread Joe’s post.
He wasn't a good coach at UCLA, but he did set up Mora for success when Mora started.
So? This post only mentions Neuheisel in passing
Pennsylvania born with Penn State a-knockin'? Thanks for listing the reasons why Chesney will not be the Bruins' next HC.
Fun speculation, regardless.
What is there to say that hasn't been said already? Martin must go.
Perfectly stated.
Even Va Tech has a huge upside over UCLA as Chesney could stay in Va. But Penn State will take him home. I can't see him passing up the opp to return to his roots, to a program rich in history, funding and loyal fans.
And... Why would he ever move across the country to spend one second with the biggest donut head and donut holes in the universe? He wouldn't.
Time spent courting Chesney is time lost pursuing a more likely candidate.
Pessimistically, Chesney could be playing UCLA for a better contract with Penn St or whomever (although I imagine those programs will open their purses at the outset), as did Chipster and Coach Cal.
As has been stated, Chesney's sanity need be questioned if he accepted a UCLA position.
UCLA Football has never fallen this low. I sadly agree with you.
Indeed, the best HC candidates out there could just use the offers from UCLA to land better jobs elsewhere, or secure contract extensions at their current jobs. Hearing someone actually wanting the UCLA HC job as their primary destination and considering it in high regard will sound pretty funny, but money talks. In any case, AD Martin Guerrero would be just fine with scraping the bottom of the HC candidate list and hire anyone who can guarantee 6-8 wins max every season, no experience necessary.
Penn State has no interest in this guy.
If Penn State ends up with Chesney as their head coach their fans will riot. They are looking at poaching a sitting P4 head coach, as is Florida. If VT hires Franklin as is rumored, there’s a very good chance Chesney is our next coach.
not a fossilized retread ala Kelly so I'm on board
I would love to have Chesney. But see my response to Sea. Not happening, imho.
Dan Mullen? Would he come? Or is a group of 5 job better than UCLA?
Dan Mullen? No thanks, he's another Chipster, imho.
I think Chesney is an outstanding coach who will likely end up at a Power 4 school. I do not think he will choose UCLA.
Chesney is 18-5 at the FBS level. I would take that at UCLA.
💯💯💯 But will he take on the cluster of jelly donuts? Don't think so, but I would love to be wrong.
I mean if you don't think an up and coming coach will want to "deal with" our AD and administration, who do you think will?
I absolutely want an up and coming coach. I don't want a retread or even a coach like Fisch.
Now that an up and coming coach like Cignetti has proven what they can do at the Power 4 level, it becomes increasingly difficult to get that type of coach because the demand is now higher.
And UCLA is perceived as an undesirable job, that's just the reality. Despite our academic prestige, gorgeous campus, etc, it's a hard sell with the scumbag lying narcissists running Morgan.
The way UCLA Football has spiraled with Donut Head Jelly 2.0 and his Donut Holes, puts us in a Hole below the competition.
With that said, if we want a coach like Chesney and he wants to be at UCLA if all the jelly donuts are cleaned out, and that's the condition, then Blockhead 2.0 needs to do just that.
Will Blockhead 2.0 take action? I hope so, but so far he has proven to be a feckless wonder, add in the whole SoFi mess, and he appears to be as bad as Donut Head.
Does Penn State have a competent AD who is not a self-serving, self-important bozo? That could be a major determining factor in him going there instead of UCLA.
I'm sure they have a lot more resources than we do, especially for football, but like Dimitri says , do they want a young coach, or will they shoot for a big name?
Penn State isn’t even sniffing around Chesney. They’re going big game hunting, which is what you would expect as soon as they fired Franklin - the Elko extension was in direct response to Penn State putting an offer on the table.
I admit ignorance about such things, but I do know this: Chesney will take one sniff of Martin and jet out of town, as did Brad Stevens with Guerrero.
I want to be wrong! (It wouldn't be the first time.)
Another reason Jarmond should be on his way out. There was a rumor we were going to go fishing for an AD along with a coach.
My hope is that Jarmond worms his way out to another job after basketball season, assuming that Cronin and Close end their seasons on high notes.
Sounds like a fine football coach…but there’s so much more to being a Power 4 college football coach than coaching football. Should a Chesney hire truly come to pass, he must have an honest commitment from the UCLA administration regarding how much money they are willing to invest; not just in NIL revenue, but in assistant coaching salaries and most importantly, a hard-driving football GM and staff to help tie it all together. Otherwise…we could well be saying one day “he seemed like a good coach…too bad he didn’t have any players….”.
Bolch's Unlocked newsletter centered on Chesney, included this quote...
Transparency and communication are two very important things that every program needs to have,” Chesney said that day, providing a mantra that all organizations should embrace.
I am beyond that we are still stuck with the very worst 'lack of transparency and communication' Donut Head and Holes on the planet.
Chesney will see right through these BIG time clowns, and unless he falls in love with UCLA's academic prowess and campus beauty, and demands that Morgan be restored, I believe our path to Bob may be 'block'ed by none other than Blockhead 2.0.
I was listening to Split Zone Duo last week, and I thought they had a really good read on something that's been sitting in the back of my head for a while now.
I don't think fans are the best at determining the desirability or state of their program because they are too invested in every little thing. For us, we see UCLA as having major issues regarding the athletic department and its leadership, but that's not the perception at the national level. The SZD guys (who are national reporters at CBS and the Athletic) were talking about UCLA in regards to the Rose Bowl and the current job, and their opinion was very different than one you'd typically see here.
It has made me reexamine my biases a bit, and while I don't think I am wrong to call for change in the athletic department, that also doesn't mean that the AD is so bad that coaches will give it a wide berth. If anything, the appearance is that this is a desirable job for a number of up-and-coming coaches, and so the job of the committee is figuring out which one has the best chance of success. The fact that Chesney appears to be the choice is a great first step in that regard.
I truly appreciate this perspective, and I hope with all of my heart, that we are able to bring Chesney to UCLA, or another up and coming coach with equal credentials. 💙💛
I've seen similar in some articles I've read over the last couple months regarding the search. Yes, the top 5-10% of Head Coaches won't be coming here, but any up and coming coach and a vast majority of coordinators absolutely would.
Don't underestimate the desire to be "the guy" at a P4 program, and also the ego to say they were the one to "turn it around". At worse they would see us as a stepping stone to a bigger P4 program, but even if that happens it means they have turned it around, making us a more desirable destination for the next coach.
To be fair to the commentators here, ESPN has the same perspective that we do. We are ranked last in their list of HC openings (even behind Stanford 😂). But I agree overall to Dmitri's point, others do not "hate" our admin as much as we do
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46639347/college-football-coaching-carousel-ranking-every-job
On the flip side, the Athletic has UCLA ranked 6th behind Penn State and the SEC jobs, which feels closer to reality than whatever Rittenberg is smoking with this list.
that high?
Big Ten job, located in a recruiting hotbed, low pressure compared to some other spots.
Yeah, easy to see why it would rank as high as it does.
I agree and don’t agree at the same time. I think our AD isn’t so far off from other departments across the country attempting to navigate a quickly changing landscape and struggling to figure out how they’re going to finance ever increasing costs.
I do think most of those schools however are in the B12 and ACC, and I do think that the department has serious problems from scandal (Rebholz, Varsity Blues) to incompetence (donor outreach) to downright horrible leadership (Jarmond, and the university’s/Hunt’s cronyism with his extension) that do need to be addressed. Fisch, specifically, has concerns about going to UCLA because of Jarmond and the lack of NIL (which is also a Jarmond problem).
Despite playing second fiddle to USC and not having its own stadium, there is no reason a football program in Los Angeles with the recruiting pool SoCal has and the history it has before the turn of the century should be this bad. That’s as much a direct indictment on the Morgan Center and Murphy Hall as it is a honest view of the potential UCLA has, which I’m sure the view from coaches and agents is that if they turned it around they would be future legends.
Yes, the school should be focused on academics first. But instead of having complete antipathy towards football, maybe the administration and the faculty would be better served being aligned on the school’s top revenue generating sport for a change.
I believe James Franklin is going to VA Tech?
VT has announced the James Franklin hiring so that’s one less competitor for Chesney.
Outstanding! 💙💛
Why in the world would Penn State....PENN STATE....hire its football coach from James Madison?