I had season tickets for 25 years (no more though as I retired and moved) and at least for most of the games the Rose Bowl was pretty full. I can't imagine even only 25,000 there. I'm sure it was at least 3/4 full for almost all the games I went to.
They seriously count the players as part of the attendance?? Well I hope they at least subtracted the 11 guys on "defense" last Saturday.
The numbers fudging that Bolch uncovers is bad enough. It also shouldn't detract from the big picture that shows, even with the figures massaged, that attendance absolutely sucks. And that's a direct indictment of the leadership in the athletic department and football program over the last 20 years.
sad indeed. I've bled blue & gold since I was a kid. But it's been on a downward trajectory for ~25 years. I couldn't bring myself to watch the whole game saturday. It had to be one of the worst ever. Perhaps the 50-0 smackdown in the 'surrender whites' was close.
I forced myself to stay inside the stadium until the final gun.
My wife wanted to leave early. Finally, I agreed that we could start making our way out. When we got to the tunnel we entered through (not the tunnel where our seats are), we sat down until it was over.
Don't know if he had tried earlier, but the AD should've at least made an effort to attract some willing sponsors to pay for displaying their ads or logos on tarps to at least get some revenue for any unfilled seats. The Rose Bowl would then have a chance to be filled to capacity with tarps instead of counting people and fudging with the number of attendees.
Ehh, every school in the country fudges numbers to some extent. Steven Godfrey told a great story on his podcast about sitting next to the SIDs at an SEC school who were deciding the attendance numbers in front of the press. Sometimes they like to throw little in-jokes in the numbers, like the score of a rivalry game at the end.
The bigger story is that even the fudged numbers are low, because that's where UCLA is at now. UCLA could only manage "35k" on a holiday weekend with no competition from the NFL and with a real opponent. That's frankly embarassing and as much an indictment of the current regime (coaches and athletic director) as anything else.
Well, I don't care much that the attendance #s are fudged. But I do care that the quality of our intercollegiate athletics is at an all-time low, that UCLA purportedly shelled out $5 million dollars for it's "non-professional" student athletes to complete and that the University administration has seemingly stopped caring about the quality of athletics and apparently only cares about the money. Wouldn't have happened in the days of Ray Allen, Bill Atkinson and Red Sanders (showing my age).
I do care about distorting the attendance numbers. That’s a major character flaw of the current administration. They do this in China. Distorting the truth. Awful.
They apparently forgot to mention that the folks hiding underneath the tarps are also part of the total attendance...
Are there any other major college football stadiums that are using tarps to hide empty seats? Maybe AD Martin Guerrero should just bring in thousands of crash dummies and permanently attach them to the empty seats. According to Wikipedia, the Rose Bowl is the 10th largest stadium in the NCAA, 11th largest in the U.S., and 20th largest in the world, so it's so shameful that the UCLA football program is now so incompatible with such a reknown and historic place. If it were possible, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of digging a 100 foot hole (similar to SoFi Stadium) somewhere on campus and building a true, home-field venue that stands a much better chance of being packed.
I had season tickets for 25 years (no more though as I retired and moved) and at least for most of the games the Rose Bowl was pretty full. I can't imagine even only 25,000 there. I'm sure it was at least 3/4 full for almost all the games I went to.
In the words of Casablanca’s Captain Renault, “I am shocked, absolutely shocked to learn this!”
"Your winnings, sir."
Yeah, that next line doesn't really apply here, does it?
Only if you follow with how scant the winnings are!
They seriously count the players as part of the attendance?? Well I hope they at least subtracted the 11 guys on "defense" last Saturday.
The numbers fudging that Bolch uncovers is bad enough. It also shouldn't detract from the big picture that shows, even with the figures massaged, that attendance absolutely sucks. And that's a direct indictment of the leadership in the athletic department and football program over the last 20 years.
The dysfunction just keeps growing.
Agree, G....just one more papercut in the slow bleed out that is UCLA Athletics.
🤣🤣🤣 'Well I hope they at least subtracted the 11 guys on "defense" last Saturday.'
Thank you G! My tea is now all over my shirt 🤣🤣🤣
"Tarps Made Here"
🤣Sadly tragic!
sad indeed. I've bled blue & gold since I was a kid. But it's been on a downward trajectory for ~25 years. I couldn't bring myself to watch the whole game saturday. It had to be one of the worst ever. Perhaps the 50-0 smackdown in the 'surrender whites' was close.
I forced myself to stay inside the stadium until the final gun.
My wife wanted to leave early. Finally, I agreed that we could start making our way out. When we got to the tunnel we entered through (not the tunnel where our seats are), we sat down until it was over.
But it was a humiliating loss.
Don't know if he had tried earlier, but the AD should've at least made an effort to attract some willing sponsors to pay for displaying their ads or logos on tarps to at least get some revenue for any unfilled seats. The Rose Bowl would then have a chance to be filled to capacity with tarps instead of counting people and fudging with the number of attendees.
LOL
Ehh, every school in the country fudges numbers to some extent. Steven Godfrey told a great story on his podcast about sitting next to the SIDs at an SEC school who were deciding the attendance numbers in front of the press. Sometimes they like to throw little in-jokes in the numbers, like the score of a rivalry game at the end.
The bigger story is that even the fudged numbers are low, because that's where UCLA is at now. UCLA could only manage "35k" on a holiday weekend with no competition from the NFL and with a real opponent. That's frankly embarassing and as much an indictment of the current regime (coaches and athletic director) as anything else.
Well, yeah, Bolch did write about how JD Morgan would either nod or write a new number down which became what they reported.
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to schedule an email for Sundays now to get the ticket scan count to know the real number.
Yeah, Those September games in 2022 had no one attending. To quote Chick Hearn " If there are 26,700 here 14, 500 are dressed as seats!"
Well, I don't care much that the attendance #s are fudged. But I do care that the quality of our intercollegiate athletics is at an all-time low, that UCLA purportedly shelled out $5 million dollars for it's "non-professional" student athletes to complete and that the University administration has seemingly stopped caring about the quality of athletics and apparently only cares about the money. Wouldn't have happened in the days of Ray Allen, Bill Atkinson and Red Sanders (showing my age).
I do care about distorting the attendance numbers. That’s a major character flaw of the current administration. They do this in China. Distorting the truth. Awful.
They apparently forgot to mention that the folks hiding underneath the tarps are also part of the total attendance...
Are there any other major college football stadiums that are using tarps to hide empty seats? Maybe AD Martin Guerrero should just bring in thousands of crash dummies and permanently attach them to the empty seats. According to Wikipedia, the Rose Bowl is the 10th largest stadium in the NCAA, 11th largest in the U.S., and 20th largest in the world, so it's so shameful that the UCLA football program is now so incompatible with such a reknown and historic place. If it were possible, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of digging a 100 foot hole (similar to SoFi Stadium) somewhere on campus and building a true, home-field venue that stands a much better chance of being packed.