Like I said in the game thread, I almost always give the coaches and players the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes you just get your ass handed to you and I think fans overreact depending on the expectations.
But this game we didn’t look prepared. The offensive play calling was terrible in key situations. The defense gave up penalties in key situations. Dillingham completely out coached Chip. I’m absolutely dumb founded.
If this has caused him to lose the locker room, it’s a wrap.
I would not be surprised if this was the last straw in creating “disunity” in the locker room.
My friend, the benefit of a doubt is a pretext UCLA employed to give Kelly the extension. I call it a reprieve just to kick the can down the road, avoiding a decision to sack now for the next administration to make.
Chip Kelly on the "hot seat"! LOL. Chip was on the "hot seat" last year and the year before and the year before. You are giving the UCLA Athletic dept and administration too much credit. They will hang on to Chip, needless to say this guy probably loses the Dept a million a week, every time they trot out their football team and put on performances like tonight's. They've lost way more money, just by keeping this clown the coach for way too long. And remember Jarmond gave Kelly an extension! Which just proves he is as clueless as Kelly. People need to realize UCLA doesn't care. The only way Kelly goes is if season tickets and football revenue keeps going down, but now that they have all that Big-10 money, they can keep Chip for another 5 years! If they win more than 4 games next season, it will be a big accomplishment.
We approached his staff at NYC Madison Square Garden the season before last about our concerns. We thought something would be done. We should have know better in light of the extension given and the outcome we get.
Anyone who would actually pay to see a Chip Kelly team play needs some serious mental health support. Even watching them on TV (for more than a few minutes) is extremely painful.
You feel the pain only now ? I live within the Rose Bowl community. I feel the difference the last couple of seasons. I can smell it. I can sense it and I dread it on game day. People attending looked like they were merely going through the motion, already knowing what was to come.
I didn’t get to watch much of the game as I was driving in the car at the time, so listened in to the radio broadcast. It certainly seemed like a dismal dumpster fire.
I think this is the type of game that starts the ball rolling for a coach to get fired. I don’t think it’s going to happen right away, but Jarmond has to be looking at how and when to move on. The other losses could be rationalised kin some way, but this is really inexcusable, and coming at home it’s even worse. No way the unhappiness of fans walking out of the rose bowl early doesn’t get noticed.
One last comment on the game - the 4th down situation where ASU kept taking false starts. On the radio they were pretty quick to realise this was a deliberate strategy to run clock, running it down, taking the penalty, and repeating. Apparently it’s up to the ref to determine when this is happening and then only start the clock on the snap. When the ref announced that, the punt team appeared.
I’ll also say, I think a huge reason Chip keeps falling on his face, is his absolute refusal to recruit in any meaningful way. At the moment 247 has us with the 53rd class with just a single 4-star. That’s nowhere near good enough to be a competitive team into the future, and the transfer portal can’t paper over the huge gaps in talent. In fact, this year we might see the portal take more than it gives.
Just look at this one game tonight. Would you want to play for Chip Kelly? No one in their right mind would. He doesn't recruit because no one wants to play for him anyway. Moore will definitely be out of there after this season (although Kelly has destroyed his future as well), and I'd be surprised if anyone left with talent on this team would stick around. There is no future for this program, hence there is no future for any of these players. You cannot recruit if you don't win, it's pretty simple. Players, at least the good ones, want to play for winners or at least contenders. They won't win more than 4 games next season with a much tougher schedule; therefore, you aren't going to get quality players who are just itching to be part of a 4-8 or 3-9 team, again, with no future.
You’re hilarious. Seriously though I’m surprised no one has mentioned Dillingham as the next potential UCLA coach. He’s got a lot of more years of career potential than Kyle.
I think we have our answer that the Chip Kelly era is over and that UCLA cannot be serious about football until he is gone. I think a change will happen by the end of this season!
All of the pregame predictions for a good, bounce-back game at home against the worst team in the Pac-12 were completely wrong, thanks to the offensive genius, LOL. He's been unable to develop a potent offense, even with someone else improving the defense for him this season (what a wasted opportunity for the Bruins!). Having multiple quarterbacks hasn't helped, either. He is also outcoached and outplayed when facing teams with lesser talent. I agree--no effort on recruiting good high school players means perpetual mediocrity for the football program as well. His ceiling at UCLA is to attain toilet bowl eligibility, and since that's already been achieved, I look forward to a winless conclusion to the 2023 season (their toilet bowl game included). Meanwhile, the administration may have to plan for installing additional tarps to cover up more empty seats in the Rose Bowl next season. Fewer fans will want to experience the frustration and embarrassment generated by such an inept and uninspiring head coach like Chip Alford. Can't wait to scream out "So long, Chief!"...
Chip had one job this season and that was to deliver a 10-win season which would effectively give the program credibility heading into the Big-10 conference. He gave us 6 wins, including 4 wins against Pac-12 teams with losing records, 1 win against a Sun Belt team that has a 7-3 record with a strength of schedule of minus 2.15, and a win against Division 1-AA team who really had no business playing UCLA. Personally, I have no idea why UCLA was even ranked during the season.
Dante Moore was the #4 overall recruit and #3 QB in last year's HS class. The fact that the kid was ill-prepared to play football at the college level lies solely on Chip's shoulders. Chip also failed to get maximum performances out of talented players like Carson Steele, T.J. Harden, Colson Yankoff, Keegan Jones, J. Michael Sturdivant, and Kyle Ford.
Seriously, when we finally get a defense that we can be proud of, Chip's offense turns to garbage. But, the fact is, the offense probably would have been garbage for the last several years had it not been for the solid play of DTR.
As soon as Chip's buyout drops down to that $4 mil + change figure, the axe needs to drop. There is no way in hell he should be leading this team into the Big-10. Buyout money should not be an issue. UCLA should be swimming in Big-10 money. They should go after Ryan Grubb or Brian Hartline. If D'Anton Lynn is a candidate, then he should bring in his dad to run the offense along with Gus Bradley, the former DC under Anthony Lynn and Pete Carroll.
There are 3 things on my wish list for Christmas. 1) a new UCLA head football coach, 2) new golf clubs, and 2) a new car. The 1st item is probably the easiest.
You can always listen to UCLA games using the iHeart app. Los Angeles 570 Fox Radio or if the games are preempted by the Clippers or Chargers, it would be on 1150 The Patriot.
The saddest thing, most sitting around us in the Bowl didn't seem to care at this point. We may have to thank Gabriel Murphy for the dumbest unsportmanslike conduct penalty in the history of Bruin football!
If there is any "best" about the stink bomb in the RB last night, it's this thread! The comments here are universally on target and make all of the excellent points necessary to underwrite giving The Ol' Woodchipper an express ticket back to NH or up into the media booth, whatever. Scarily, the posts in re booting AD Jarmond make terrifyingly good arguments as well. In perspective, the extension with the exorbitant buyouts look moronic.
Now, not only is UCLA potentially on the hook to pay Boobus Chippus eight double large to chop wood in NH, but Ol' Chip has ruined any rep UCLA had, doomed recruiting, and will cause younger members of this team to flee for the exits!
God only knows what this is will have done to season ticket sales (speaking of fleeing for the exits). I would suggest UCLA reschedule all their home games next year for Sunday mornings at 0800 to attract any interesting swap meet goers to "drop in". Maybe a Cadillac or Mercedes raffle for the games? You know, second prize is a set of steak knives? Third prize is you're fired! (Lordy, I love Mamet!)
Exit thought: Google "fire Chip Kelly" and you will return a litany of articles regarding this subject that document this man's trail of tears and bumbling that should have been a sufficient reference check for anyone offering him the reigns of ANY football program. (Well, maybe not a Pop Warner team in Keene, NH.)
These articles, by the way, include one about the AZ loss last year that was such a carbon copy of this debacle that it would have been a simple matter to red pencil out the date and a few items to make it fit last night's disaster.
Ordinarily, I'd say thank God it's basketball season, but this is so bad, it might besmirch Cronins's season! (I kid, I kid!)
We'll get pounded by the Toe Jams, of course, and "salvage" a win versus the CALBAREZ but, if we go to a bowel [sic] game, we're opening up ourselves to prosecution for fraud.
Listen bro. Why would you still coach nor do anything when you know either way, win or lose on the field, you will get a huge pay check at the end of the day ?!?
In this thread, there's ample speculation in this thread that Chipster *wants* to get canned. Approximately per the contract as related by the MB folks, he's got an $8 million riding on this if he gets his butt canned before December -something- and $4 million afterwards. If Martin Jarmond wants to wait until the $4 million buyout kicks in then he's tampering with hiring deadlines, recruiting, and and "transitioning" to the B.O. So, basically, Chipster's lawyers played Jarmond and got him by the short and curlies on that extension.
By the way, why'd they give the Ol' Woodchipper the extension anyway? About one year ago, UCLA fumed up the AZ Mildcats' stadium with an almost identical stink bomb and folks were calling for his head! I'm beginning to think that Jarmond is an idiot!
Actually, that AZ game was in the Rose Bowl last season as well!! Yep, almost a carbon copy as you said, at least UCLA's offense in that game could at least come up with four scores though.
This is Jarmond's opportunity to prove to UCLA supporters, alumni and the University what kind of AD he is or will become. Since he was recommended by Guerrero, my guess is he is either the same as Guerrero or worse. Based on some of his other moves, he seems to be worse, so Chip stays right where he is. After all, they just got themselves back "in the black" after the huge Big10 contract (one of the main reasons they bolted from the Pac-12), no sense in wasting some of that cash on both the old and new head football coaches.
He hasn't won a significant game in ten years...I'm wondering if this is as good as it gets this year. U$C is going to win by four tds and Cal is no gimme like Furd was.
..dunno about the CALBAREZ, but I think the 50-0 record stomping we got back in '11 might be up for grabs! Maybe Chip'll resurrect the "Surrender Whites" (uniforms) for next Saturday.
For the most part I'd agree, however the 2021 season saw UCLA defeating LSU at the Rose Bowl and LSU was ranked at the time. Weather people thought LSU was good at that point, they were ranked #16. They ended the season at 6-7 (not very good), but again, first game so at the time it was probably Kelly's biggest signature win, and he did beat SC in 2021 as well 62-33, so he should get some credit there, but that 2021 team was a 10-2 team that Kelly managed to make into an 8-4 team, simply illustrating how bad he has been for UCLA football.
To be charitable, the "tear down" and starting a true frosh QB who'd only played the position for one year in high school was obstensively to build for year 4 and year 5... Which were both 10-win teams that should have, at worse, been in the PAC title game and found ways not to due to bad and lazy coaching
I sent a letter to ad@athletics.ucla.edu last night politely pointing out everything we have seen re Chip running the program into the ground. I pointed out to Mr. Jarmond that he has the power and responsibility to end this farce. I am encouraging everyone who cares about Ucla football to do the same
Hi my dear friend, we did that plus more. If you read my past comments, we approached the UCLA athletic department personnel in person even. Then came the extension. It was like a big slap in our face as if they were telling us we don't tell them what to do. Daddy knows best.
Sadly, this is the mentality that is hurting recruiting in all athletic endeavors at UCLA - Men's & women's. A once storied, perennial, National Championship contending track & field program, a thing of the past, a 1 and done men's basketball program.
Not unlike businesses in California, one example a Mom made me aware of recently was that the top high school girls softball players in So Cal are mounting their own exodus, flocking to - of all places - 1) Oklahoma and 2) Florida. Check the roster of Oklahoma's National Championship team. https://soonersports.com/sports/softball/roster/2023
Were you their parents, would you not agree and go along too ???? You support your kids, always tell them in sports, you compete the best way you know how to win if possible before you settle for second best or anything else. You strive your level best in other words. Otherwise, what is the point of competing ?!?
Okay, so be it. In life, you do not get your cake and eat it at the same time. I was in Norman, Oklahoma during my Wisconsin grad school years. It was much like Madison to me but a college town does not tell you much about the rest of the state. But to think my kid, with the skills he/ she has, would languish here simply because of the other amenities ? No way bro.
Ironically, the other amenities are what everyone points to as why recruiting should be easier at UCLA. I mean the weather is great and LA has lots of entertainment spots, but that’s also the reason LA schools have very poor collegiate fan bases compared with more college towns.
UCLA is a beautiful campus and the Pauley renovation was phenomenal. But even in the pac-12 other schools have better and newer football facilities. I loved the Rose Bowl but access to it is horrendous. The metro stop is far away and Uber services couldn’t get within two miles post game.
Sorry for the brutal honesty but some illusions about UCLA being a destination spot just don’t hold water.
The oldest of the three softball playing sisters from San Pedro - the middle daughter was on the season-just-completed Natl. Championship team - has graduated and purchased a house there, pursuing her post grad degree. The parents - whom I ran into while grocery shopping recently - gave me the run down on what THEY'VE witnessed with UCLA athletics politics and how their skewed policies are KILLING that storied softball program bit by bit. Based upon what we're all witnessing, I believe it safe to assume such political in-fighting or whatever the hell is going on, is impacting UCLA's athletics departments across the board. The parents have likewise, purchased a house outside Norman. Their youngest graduates (Mary Star of the Sea High School) in 2024, and is also a top prospect who will attend Oklahoma on a softball scholarship. These parents are So Cal, South Bay natives, they HATE the thought of moving out of California, but the positives they cited - less the weather admittedly - as they've spent a lot of time there in all seasons, are all significant, beginning with taxation across the board, grocery and gasoline prices etc. They hate the thought of leaving So Cal but LOVE the idea of getting away from the ever-further reaching California/Los Angeles County government(s)....
You said it all. There was a time when California was the place to be. But now ?!? You can answer it better than myself. I like your depiction " the
ever - further reaching California/ Los Angeles County government(s) " Beautiful words indeed and so much meanings packed within them. Good job, Mr. Burt !
Don't even mention women's softball!! LOL. They were what 52-5 this last season (before losing two straight regional playoff games) and couldn't even get out of their own regionals! More evidence of Jarmond's AD "leadership".
There's seems to be a lot of that going around these days. I was always taught that public leadership involved humility, and a mindset of serving the needs of others. That concept seems to have largely disappeared and devolved into, as you so eloquently put it, "Daddy knows best".
My fellow bruin fans, I. TOLD. YOU. SO. This is sad, more than sad in fact, to see how the ill conceived extension, thinly veiled as encouragement to foster progress when everything points to otherwise, has totally flubbed in light of this disastrous season. The icing on the cake will come with the impending SC game. We are not in Cambodia. But it will be KILLING FIELD 2.0.
If Jarmond fired him you’d be looking at hiring a coach with an insane contract like Mel Tucker’s or Jimbo Fisher’s. Be thankful the buyout is only 4-8 million
Bravo Jimbo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He sets an example for all NCAA coaches wannabe. Just do the very best to latch on to a Division 1 program. Then you got it made for life. For non productivity, incompetence and what not, he walks away with $78 million. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor A&M alums, these are your money and the university squandered your loyalty, dedication down the toilet !!!!!!!!!!!
Coach Jimbo, Happy Thanksgiving !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you teach me a trick or do about how you did it ????????? May be I can replicate that with a Division III program and walk away with just a million or two. I am satifisfied. Swear to god I am not greedy.
As if the greed-driven and downright blasphemous demolishing of the most powerful, champion producing - National, Olympic, and Professional - conference in the history of collegiate athletics, along with the NIL codswallop weren't enough to take in, well, in my little op/ed discussing compensation packages for head coaches who ain't mak'n it, is now out on the table. Those packages MUST commensurate with on-field performance, period!
In no way, shape, or form has or does, the set-to-increase $6.1 million dollar annual salary Chip Kelly is receiving correspond with the product that we're being forced to consume.
The ASU game, not unlike the OSU and Utah games, was a sorry spectacle. Another glaringly poor example showcasing the systemic anemia in both preparation and execution that has taken hold at UCLA's football operations offices. Kelly should man up, and step aside immediately, and the university should name Lynn to assume head coaching duties to close out a miserable season. Kelly has become an embarrassment, plain and simple for all to see.
With each season during his tenure, its become increasingly apparent that Chip Kelly is now prone to mistaking long-past accomplishments and current arrogance, for expertise in play-calling.
In concert with high expectations followed by - repeating - embarrassingly lousy on-field performance, alumni and fans are increasingly dissatisfied with Chip's blatantly calculable approach; an approach that - systematically - results in an annual show of flat-line mediocrity. The kicker is, that the talent to beat all three of the teams I mention, is intact, no excuse but game management from the coach.
Oh bull... It doesn't matter who Newsom's cronies put in the Chancellors chair. Whatever you may feel or think, Block wasn't that good of a Chancellor, he really wasn't. Now we will undoubtedly get someone much worse. I can't see Newsom's cronies selecting anyone even decent at this point. Meaning Athletics at UCLA will sink further down the list.
It is not about Gene Block, his competence and what not. It is about the process of politics and other time consuming stuffs that hiring of a new chancellor entails. It unfortunately compounds the coaching search simultaneously. This is the gist of it. This is what I was told and I was not drinking Red Bull. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!
..and, I would attempt to glare back but only stare -- stupefied and awed by your brilliance! By the way, it would be interesting to see and expansion on your conversation re the "impending chancellor turnover".
Yes, my friend. I will share with you more about what I learned. They could be hearsay too. But I will be at Seal Beach this pm meeting up with my Sunday buddies.
Where are the Kelly apologists who mocked and ridiculed me everything step of the way when I first started to voice my discontent with Kelly, calling him a retread ? They remind me of cockroaches. Now that the light is on, boy do the scramble and hide, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they're all hiding underneath the tarps at the Rose Bowl. If you take a peek next time you're there, you might even see Jarmond hiding with them...
I was walking my neighbor's darling huskie around that area. He is my " kid " too. He loves In & Out burgers and too bad, his folks won't buy him but I do. As he chowed down on the whole thing, I looked around and not a single soul was around but us, lol 111
Chip Kelly is a freaking circus clown!
A freaking con artist.
Like I said in the game thread, I almost always give the coaches and players the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes you just get your ass handed to you and I think fans overreact depending on the expectations.
But this game we didn’t look prepared. The offensive play calling was terrible in key situations. The defense gave up penalties in key situations. Dillingham completely out coached Chip. I’m absolutely dumb founded.
If this has caused him to lose the locker room, it’s a wrap.
I would not be surprised if this was the last straw in creating “disunity” in the locker room.
My friend, the benefit of a doubt is a pretext UCLA employed to give Kelly the extension. I call it a reprieve just to kick the can down the road, avoiding a decision to sack now for the next administration to make.
Not only is Chip Kelly on the hot seat, but Martin Jarmond should be as well for his nonsensical extension of Kelly’s contract. No culture of winning.
Chip Kelly on the "hot seat"! LOL. Chip was on the "hot seat" last year and the year before and the year before. You are giving the UCLA Athletic dept and administration too much credit. They will hang on to Chip, needless to say this guy probably loses the Dept a million a week, every time they trot out their football team and put on performances like tonight's. They've lost way more money, just by keeping this clown the coach for way too long. And remember Jarmond gave Kelly an extension! Which just proves he is as clueless as Kelly. People need to realize UCLA doesn't care. The only way Kelly goes is if season tickets and football revenue keeps going down, but now that they have all that Big-10 money, they can keep Chip for another 5 years! If they win more than 4 games next season, it will be a big accomplishment.
This-a-roonie!
We approached his staff at NYC Madison Square Garden the season before last about our concerns. We thought something would be done. We should have know better in light of the extension given and the outcome we get.
Anyone who would actually pay to see a Chip Kelly team play needs some serious mental health support. Even watching them on TV (for more than a few minutes) is extremely painful.
I was at the game. It was the most painful game I’ve ever seen in 25 years going to the rose bowl.
It’s like Chip didn’t take ASU seriously until the 4th q and by then it was whoever scored first won
You feel the pain only now ? I live within the Rose Bowl community. I feel the difference the last couple of seasons. I can smell it. I can sense it and I dread it on game day. People attending looked like they were merely going through the motion, already knowing what was to come.
I didn’t get to watch much of the game as I was driving in the car at the time, so listened in to the radio broadcast. It certainly seemed like a dismal dumpster fire.
I think this is the type of game that starts the ball rolling for a coach to get fired. I don’t think it’s going to happen right away, but Jarmond has to be looking at how and when to move on. The other losses could be rationalised kin some way, but this is really inexcusable, and coming at home it’s even worse. No way the unhappiness of fans walking out of the rose bowl early doesn’t get noticed.
One last comment on the game - the 4th down situation where ASU kept taking false starts. On the radio they were pretty quick to realise this was a deliberate strategy to run clock, running it down, taking the penalty, and repeating. Apparently it’s up to the ref to determine when this is happening and then only start the clock on the snap. When the ref announced that, the punt team appeared.
I was at the game and this was confusing. Was it a deliberate move to waste an extra 2min? If so, genius!
It seems so
I’ll also say, I think a huge reason Chip keeps falling on his face, is his absolute refusal to recruit in any meaningful way. At the moment 247 has us with the 53rd class with just a single 4-star. That’s nowhere near good enough to be a competitive team into the future, and the transfer portal can’t paper over the huge gaps in talent. In fact, this year we might see the portal take more than it gives.
Just look at this one game tonight. Would you want to play for Chip Kelly? No one in their right mind would. He doesn't recruit because no one wants to play for him anyway. Moore will definitely be out of there after this season (although Kelly has destroyed his future as well), and I'd be surprised if anyone left with talent on this team would stick around. There is no future for this program, hence there is no future for any of these players. You cannot recruit if you don't win, it's pretty simple. Players, at least the good ones, want to play for winners or at least contenders. They won't win more than 4 games next season with a much tougher schedule; therefore, you aren't going to get quality players who are just itching to be part of a 4-8 or 3-9 team, again, with no future.
Recruiting rankings are irrelevant, because remember, Savant Chipster will take those unpolished gems and coach 'em up.
I know you are being sarcastic, but he’s definitely no Whittingham when it comes to coaching up “unpolished gems “.
Bruins here have been agreeable for years to swap for Coach Kyle.
You’re hilarious. Seriously though I’m surprised no one has mentioned Dillingham as the next potential UCLA coach. He’s got a lot of more years of career potential than Kyle.
Next time you drive the car and turn to a classical music station. You drive better and you feel better until you arrive at your destination.
I think we have our answer that the Chip Kelly era is over and that UCLA cannot be serious about football until he is gone. I think a change will happen by the end of this season!
..and should have happened in the RB tunnel last night!
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All of the pregame predictions for a good, bounce-back game at home against the worst team in the Pac-12 were completely wrong, thanks to the offensive genius, LOL. He's been unable to develop a potent offense, even with someone else improving the defense for him this season (what a wasted opportunity for the Bruins!). Having multiple quarterbacks hasn't helped, either. He is also outcoached and outplayed when facing teams with lesser talent. I agree--no effort on recruiting good high school players means perpetual mediocrity for the football program as well. His ceiling at UCLA is to attain toilet bowl eligibility, and since that's already been achieved, I look forward to a winless conclusion to the 2023 season (their toilet bowl game included). Meanwhile, the administration may have to plan for installing additional tarps to cover up more empty seats in the Rose Bowl next season. Fewer fans will want to experience the frustration and embarrassment generated by such an inept and uninspiring head coach like Chip Alford. Can't wait to scream out "So long, Chief!"...
I've got news for you: ASU is not the worst team in the Conference...
Chip had one job this season and that was to deliver a 10-win season which would effectively give the program credibility heading into the Big-10 conference. He gave us 6 wins, including 4 wins against Pac-12 teams with losing records, 1 win against a Sun Belt team that has a 7-3 record with a strength of schedule of minus 2.15, and a win against Division 1-AA team who really had no business playing UCLA. Personally, I have no idea why UCLA was even ranked during the season.
Dante Moore was the #4 overall recruit and #3 QB in last year's HS class. The fact that the kid was ill-prepared to play football at the college level lies solely on Chip's shoulders. Chip also failed to get maximum performances out of talented players like Carson Steele, T.J. Harden, Colson Yankoff, Keegan Jones, J. Michael Sturdivant, and Kyle Ford.
Seriously, when we finally get a defense that we can be proud of, Chip's offense turns to garbage. But, the fact is, the offense probably would have been garbage for the last several years had it not been for the solid play of DTR.
As soon as Chip's buyout drops down to that $4 mil + change figure, the axe needs to drop. There is no way in hell he should be leading this team into the Big-10. Buyout money should not be an issue. UCLA should be swimming in Big-10 money. They should go after Ryan Grubb or Brian Hartline. If D'Anton Lynn is a candidate, then he should bring in his dad to run the offense along with Gus Bradley, the former DC under Anthony Lynn and Pete Carroll.
There are 3 things on my wish list for Christmas. 1) a new UCLA head football coach, 2) new golf clubs, and 2) a new car. The 1st item is probably the easiest.
If you can arrange #1, I am sure we can pass the hat 'round here to accommodate #2 and #3.
I dunno about that! We'll see...
At least I don’t have the PAC 12 network so I didn’t have to watch this abomination…
At least I know better than to even follow our games, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had to listen to it on ucla athletics site.
me too
You can always listen to UCLA games using the iHeart app. Los Angeles 570 Fox Radio or if the games are preempted by the Clippers or Chargers, it would be on 1150 The Patriot.
I live in Cleveland so I can't use the local stations, but maybe the iHeart app.
The saddest thing, most sitting around us in the Bowl didn't seem to care at this point. We may have to thank Gabriel Murphy for the dumbest unsportmanslike conduct penalty in the history of Bruin football!
It was greyson
Ha! Identical twins and 11 and 12. Wonder why I keep getting them confused? Thanks!
If Greyson didn't commit it, Gabriel would have. The twins are both getting a reputation for dumb, untimely penalties.
That may hurt draft value in the future.
If there is any "best" about the stink bomb in the RB last night, it's this thread! The comments here are universally on target and make all of the excellent points necessary to underwrite giving The Ol' Woodchipper an express ticket back to NH or up into the media booth, whatever. Scarily, the posts in re booting AD Jarmond make terrifyingly good arguments as well. In perspective, the extension with the exorbitant buyouts look moronic.
Now, not only is UCLA potentially on the hook to pay Boobus Chippus eight double large to chop wood in NH, but Ol' Chip has ruined any rep UCLA had, doomed recruiting, and will cause younger members of this team to flee for the exits!
God only knows what this is will have done to season ticket sales (speaking of fleeing for the exits). I would suggest UCLA reschedule all their home games next year for Sunday mornings at 0800 to attract any interesting swap meet goers to "drop in". Maybe a Cadillac or Mercedes raffle for the games? You know, second prize is a set of steak knives? Third prize is you're fired! (Lordy, I love Mamet!)
Exit thought: Google "fire Chip Kelly" and you will return a litany of articles regarding this subject that document this man's trail of tears and bumbling that should have been a sufficient reference check for anyone offering him the reigns of ANY football program. (Well, maybe not a Pop Warner team in Keene, NH.)
These articles, by the way, include one about the AZ loss last year that was such a carbon copy of this debacle that it would have been a simple matter to red pencil out the date and a few items to make it fit last night's disaster.
Ordinarily, I'd say thank God it's basketball season, but this is so bad, it might besmirch Cronins's season! (I kid, I kid!)
We'll get pounded by the Toe Jams, of course, and "salvage" a win versus the CALBAREZ but, if we go to a bowel [sic] game, we're opening up ourselves to prosecution for fraud.
Listen bro. Why would you still coach nor do anything when you know either way, win or lose on the field, you will get a huge pay check at the end of the day ?!?
10-4, good buddy. Nailed it yet again..
In this thread, there's ample speculation in this thread that Chipster *wants* to get canned. Approximately per the contract as related by the MB folks, he's got an $8 million riding on this if he gets his butt canned before December -something- and $4 million afterwards. If Martin Jarmond wants to wait until the $4 million buyout kicks in then he's tampering with hiring deadlines, recruiting, and and "transitioning" to the B.O. So, basically, Chipster's lawyers played Jarmond and got him by the short and curlies on that extension.
By the way, why'd they give the Ol' Woodchipper the extension anyway? About one year ago, UCLA fumed up the AZ Mildcats' stadium with an almost identical stink bomb and folks were calling for his head! I'm beginning to think that Jarmond is an idiot!
YOU. GOT. IT. At this point, he is longing for the axe to fall so that he can walk away with tons of $$$$. You would too, right ????????
Roger.
Actually, that AZ game was in the Rose Bowl last season as well!! Yep, almost a carbon copy as you said, at least UCLA's offense in that game could at least come up with four scores though.
This is Jarmond's opportunity to prove to UCLA supporters, alumni and the University what kind of AD he is or will become. Since he was recommended by Guerrero, my guess is he is either the same as Guerrero or worse. Based on some of his other moves, he seems to be worse, so Chip stays right where he is. After all, they just got themselves back "in the black" after the huge Big10 contract (one of the main reasons they bolted from the Pac-12), no sense in wasting some of that cash on both the old and new head football coaches.
He hasn't won a significant game in ten years...I'm wondering if this is as good as it gets this year. U$C is going to win by four tds and Cal is no gimme like Furd was.
..dunno about the CALBAREZ, but I think the 50-0 record stomping we got back in '11 might be up for grabs! Maybe Chip'll resurrect the "Surrender Whites" (uniforms) for next Saturday.
For the most part I'd agree, however the 2021 season saw UCLA defeating LSU at the Rose Bowl and LSU was ranked at the time. Weather people thought LSU was good at that point, they were ranked #16. They ended the season at 6-7 (not very good), but again, first game so at the time it was probably Kelly's biggest signature win, and he did beat SC in 2021 as well 62-33, so he should get some credit there, but that 2021 team was a 10-2 team that Kelly managed to make into an 8-4 team, simply illustrating how bad he has been for UCLA football.
I'll concede the 2021 win was sweet. But did it lead to anything?
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To be charitable, the "tear down" and starting a true frosh QB who'd only played the position for one year in high school was obstensively to build for year 4 and year 5... Which were both 10-win teams that should have, at worse, been in the PAC title game and found ways not to due to bad and lazy coaching
I sent a letter to ad@athletics.ucla.edu last night politely pointing out everything we have seen re Chip running the program into the ground. I pointed out to Mr. Jarmond that he has the power and responsibility to end this farce. I am encouraging everyone who cares about Ucla football to do the same
Hi my dear friend, we did that plus more. If you read my past comments, we approached the UCLA athletic department personnel in person even. Then came the extension. It was like a big slap in our face as if they were telling us we don't tell them what to do. Daddy knows best.
Sadly, this is the mentality that is hurting recruiting in all athletic endeavors at UCLA - Men's & women's. A once storied, perennial, National Championship contending track & field program, a thing of the past, a 1 and done men's basketball program.
Not unlike businesses in California, one example a Mom made me aware of recently was that the top high school girls softball players in So Cal are mounting their own exodus, flocking to - of all places - 1) Oklahoma and 2) Florida. Check the roster of Oklahoma's National Championship team. https://soonersports.com/sports/softball/roster/2023
Were you their parents, would you not agree and go along too ???? You support your kids, always tell them in sports, you compete the best way you know how to win if possible before you settle for second best or anything else. You strive your level best in other words. Otherwise, what is the point of competing ?!?
Yeah but then you have to live in Oklahoma or Florida...
Okay, so be it. In life, you do not get your cake and eat it at the same time. I was in Norman, Oklahoma during my Wisconsin grad school years. It was much like Madison to me but a college town does not tell you much about the rest of the state. But to think my kid, with the skills he/ she has, would languish here simply because of the other amenities ? No way bro.
That's true. I lived in Boulder for awhile, it could've been Westwood. Nevertheless...
Ironically, the other amenities are what everyone points to as why recruiting should be easier at UCLA. I mean the weather is great and LA has lots of entertainment spots, but that’s also the reason LA schools have very poor collegiate fan bases compared with more college towns.
UCLA is a beautiful campus and the Pauley renovation was phenomenal. But even in the pac-12 other schools have better and newer football facilities. I loved the Rose Bowl but access to it is horrendous. The metro stop is far away and Uber services couldn’t get within two miles post game.
Sorry for the brutal honesty but some illusions about UCLA being a destination spot just don’t hold water.
The oldest of the three softball playing sisters from San Pedro - the middle daughter was on the season-just-completed Natl. Championship team - has graduated and purchased a house there, pursuing her post grad degree. The parents - whom I ran into while grocery shopping recently - gave me the run down on what THEY'VE witnessed with UCLA athletics politics and how their skewed policies are KILLING that storied softball program bit by bit. Based upon what we're all witnessing, I believe it safe to assume such political in-fighting or whatever the hell is going on, is impacting UCLA's athletics departments across the board. The parents have likewise, purchased a house outside Norman. Their youngest graduates (Mary Star of the Sea High School) in 2024, and is also a top prospect who will attend Oklahoma on a softball scholarship. These parents are So Cal, South Bay natives, they HATE the thought of moving out of California, but the positives they cited - less the weather admittedly - as they've spent a lot of time there in all seasons, are all significant, beginning with taxation across the board, grocery and gasoline prices etc. They hate the thought of leaving So Cal but LOVE the idea of getting away from the ever-further reaching California/Los Angeles County government(s)....
You said it all. There was a time when California was the place to be. But now ?!? You can answer it better than myself. I like your depiction " the
ever - further reaching California/ Los Angeles County government(s) " Beautiful words indeed and so much meanings packed within them. Good job, Mr. Burt !
Don't even mention women's softball!! LOL. They were what 52-5 this last season (before losing two straight regional playoff games) and couldn't even get out of their own regionals! More evidence of Jarmond's AD "leadership".
Jarmond proving to be a "fiscal manager" like Dan?
There's seems to be a lot of that going around these days. I was always taught that public leadership involved humility, and a mindset of serving the needs of others. That concept seems to have largely disappeared and devolved into, as you so eloquently put it, "Daddy knows best".
Done!
Yes! Thank you
My fellow bruin fans, I. TOLD. YOU. SO. This is sad, more than sad in fact, to see how the ill conceived extension, thinly veiled as encouragement to foster progress when everything points to otherwise, has totally flubbed in light of this disastrous season. The icing on the cake will come with the impending SC game. We are not in Cambodia. But it will be KILLING FIELD 2.0.
If Jarmond fired him you’d be looking at hiring a coach with an insane contract like Mel Tucker’s or Jimbo Fisher’s. Be thankful the buyout is only 4-8 million
Bravo Jimbo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He sets an example for all NCAA coaches wannabe. Just do the very best to latch on to a Division 1 program. Then you got it made for life. For non productivity, incompetence and what not, he walks away with $78 million. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor A&M alums, these are your money and the university squandered your loyalty, dedication down the toilet !!!!!!!!!!!
Coach Jimbo, Happy Thanksgiving !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you teach me a trick or do about how you did it ????????? May be I can replicate that with a Division III program and walk away with just a million or two. I am satifisfied. Swear to god I am not greedy.
As if the greed-driven and downright blasphemous demolishing of the most powerful, champion producing - National, Olympic, and Professional - conference in the history of collegiate athletics, along with the NIL codswallop weren't enough to take in, well, in my little op/ed discussing compensation packages for head coaches who ain't mak'n it, is now out on the table. Those packages MUST commensurate with on-field performance, period!
In no way, shape, or form has or does, the set-to-increase $6.1 million dollar annual salary Chip Kelly is receiving correspond with the product that we're being forced to consume.
The ASU game, not unlike the OSU and Utah games, was a sorry spectacle. Another glaringly poor example showcasing the systemic anemia in both preparation and execution that has taken hold at UCLA's football operations offices. Kelly should man up, and step aside immediately, and the university should name Lynn to assume head coaching duties to close out a miserable season. Kelly has become an embarrassment, plain and simple for all to see.
With each season during his tenure, its become increasingly apparent that Chip Kelly is now prone to mistaking long-past accomplishments and current arrogance, for expertise in play-calling.
In concert with high expectations followed by - repeating - embarrassingly lousy on-field performance, alumni and fans are increasingly dissatisfied with Chip's blatantly calculable approach; an approach that - systematically - results in an annual show of flat-line mediocrity. The kicker is, that the talent to beat all three of the teams I mention, is intact, no excuse but game management from the coach.
Dillingham out-coached the guy - in spades!
Fire Kelly, make Lynn head coach, hire NDSU's Tyler Roehl as offensive coordinator.
It is on Jarmond. But friends at Pauley told me last night that this has much to do with the impending chancellor turnover.
Oh bull... It doesn't matter who Newsom's cronies put in the Chancellors chair. Whatever you may feel or think, Block wasn't that good of a Chancellor, he really wasn't. Now we will undoubtedly get someone much worse. I can't see Newsom's cronies selecting anyone even decent at this point. Meaning Athletics at UCLA will sink further down the list.
It is not about Gene Block, his competence and what not. It is about the process of politics and other time consuming stuffs that hiring of a new chancellor entails. It unfortunately compounds the coaching search simultaneously. This is the gist of it. This is what I was told and I was not drinking Red Bull. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!
Glaringly well said!
I would then glare at you and say thank you sir, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
..and, I would attempt to glare back but only stare -- stupefied and awed by your brilliance! By the way, it would be interesting to see and expansion on your conversation re the "impending chancellor turnover".
Yes, my friend. I will share with you more about what I learned. They could be hearsay too. But I will be at Seal Beach this pm meeting up with my Sunday buddies.
Where are the Kelly apologists who mocked and ridiculed me everything step of the way when I first started to voice my discontent with Kelly, calling him a retread ? They remind me of cockroaches. Now that the light is on, boy do the scramble and hide, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they're all hiding underneath the tarps at the Rose Bowl. If you take a peek next time you're there, you might even see Jarmond hiding with them...
I was walking my neighbor's darling huskie around that area. He is my " kid " too. He loves In & Out burgers and too bad, his folks won't buy him but I do. As he chowed down on the whole thing, I looked around and not a single soul was around but us, lol 111